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    Tribunal rules soldier was racially abused

    Doesn't look like the RLC, Welsh Guards or RMP come out of this one smelling of roses. Anyone got a copy of the tribunal report?

    http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/to...lly_abused.php

    "Such casual racism appeared to be tolerated and there were a string of failings by the Royal Military Police, the tribunal concluded."

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    Re: Tribunal rules soldier was racially abused

    Quote Originally Posted by Western
    Doesn't look like the RLC, Welsh Guards or RMP come out of this one smelling of roses. Anyone got a copy of the tribunal report?
    Very sad indeed, it appears as if racism does still exist in some places. What evidence do you have for saying the RLC do not come out of this smelling of roses - are you suggesting the RLC are at fault?

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    Re: Tribunal rules soldier was racially abused

    No form of racism is acceptable - anywhere, or at any time. It is the lowest, most cowardly, form of bullying.

    When there is proven unacceptable behaviour, as appears to be the case here, then I believe that the full wrath of anger and just retribution should be applied right across the 'chain of command'.

    By this I mean not only the 'Lance corporal' mentioned but his sergeant; his company sergeant major; the company commander and the commanding officer.

    The 'Lance corporal' should have been 'stamped on' - hard.

    His sergeant ought to have been 'bitten' - savagely - by the company sergeant major.

    The company sergeant major should have ensured the company commander was fully 'picturized'.

    The company commander ought to have briefed, in detail, the commanding offier.

    The commanding officer ought, in those circumstances, cleansed the Stygian stables and then faced any 'music' coming his way - even removal from appointment.

    The first time this happens, and appropriate punishments are meted out, following full investigation and trial of course; then I suspect it will become a much rarer event.

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    Re: Tribunal rules soldier was racially abused

    Quote Originally Posted by m2mSolutions
    Quote Originally Posted by Western
    Doesn't look like the RLC, Welsh Guards or RMP come out of this one smelling of roses. Anyone got a copy of the tribunal report?
    Very sad indeed, it appears as if racism does still exist in some places. What evidence do you have for saying the RLC do not come out of this smelling of roses - are you suggesting the RLC are at fault?
    F*ck me, you're sensitive aren't you?

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    Re: Tribunal rules soldier was racially abused

    Quote Originally Posted by lsquared
    No form of racism is acceptable - anywhere, or at any time. It is the lowest, most cowardly, form of bullying.

    When there is proven unacceptable behaviour, as appears to be the case here, then I believe that the full wrath of anger and just retribution should be applied right across the 'chain of command'.

    By this I mean not only the 'Lance corporal' mentioned but his sergeant; his company sergeant major; the company commander and the commanding officer.

    The 'Lance corporal' should have been 'stamped on' - hard.

    His sergeant ought to have been 'bitten' - savagely - by the company sergeant major.

    The company sergeant major should have ensured the company commander was fully 'picturized'.

    The company commander ought to have briefed, in detail, the commanding offier.

    The commanding officer ought, in those circumstances, cleansed the Stygian stables and then faced any 'music' coming his way - even removal from appointment.

    The first time this happens, and appropriate punishments are meted out, following full investigation and trial of course; then I suspect it will become a much rarer event.
    You've really taken this to heart haven't you?

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    Re: Tribunal rules soldier was racially abused

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuits_AB
    F*ck me, you're sensitive aren't you?
    Not really, just interested if there was any substance before slating the RLC - or at they at fault because they posted him there?

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    Re: Tribunal rules soldier was racially abused

    Call me thick if you want but I'm struggling to see exactly what the racist element of all this amounts to, unless of course theres some hidden meaning to the name "Paris Hilton" that I'm unaware of? Sounds a lot like routine squaddy pi*s-taking to me.
    There is always to be seen just a little strip of Green, on the left of the Thin Red Line!

    “Our rulers will best promote the improvement of the nation by strictly confining themselves to their own legitimate duties, by leaving capital to find its most lucrative course, commodities their fair price, industry and intelligence their natural reward, idleness and folly their natural punishment, by maintaining peace, by defending property, by diminishing the price of law, and by observing strict economy in every department of the state.”

    •Macaulay in his essay on Southey’s Colloquies, written in 1830:

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    Re: Tribunal rules soldier was racially abused

    Quote Originally Posted by m2mSolutions
    Quote Originally Posted by Western
    Doesn't look like the RLC, Welsh Guards or RMP come out of this one smelling of roses. Anyone got a copy of the tribunal report?
    Very sad indeed, it appears as if racism does still exist in some places. What evidence do you have for saying the RLC do not come out of this smelling of roses - are you suggesting the RLC are at fault?
    Just on the assumption that his LCpl, the racist, was a cook and therefore RLC.

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    Re: Tribunal rules soldier was racially abused

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaeger
    Call me thick if you want but I'm struggling to see exactly what the racist element of all this amounts to, unless of course theres some hidden meaning to the name "Paris Hilton" that I'm unaware of? Sounds a lot like routine squaddy pi*s-taking to me.
    So fcuckind nigger doesn't sound racist to you then?

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    Re: Tribunal rules soldier was racially abused

    Quote Originally Posted by western
    Quote Originally Posted by m2mSolutions
    Quote Originally Posted by Western
    Doesn't look like the RLC, Welsh Guards or RMP come out of this one smelling of roses. Anyone got a copy of the tribunal report?
    Very sad indeed, it appears as if racism does still exist in some places. What evidence do you have for saying the RLC do not come out of this smelling of roses - are you suggesting the RLC are at fault?
    Just on the assumption that his LCpl, the racist, was a cook and therefore RLC.
    THere is obviously more to this than has been reported in the article however the piece actually reads

    The chef in the Welsh Guards, nicknamed "Paris Hilton", was attacked by a racist lance corporal, the tribunal heard.
    which is not the same as his LCpl - the racist may not be a cook as you put it.

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