ARmy Rumour SErvice

**DarkBlueLoggie** · 23-05-2008, 16:33

Originally Posted by DavidBOC

In USN a collision is career ending (other than the one in 80's where the captain got medal, promation to squadron command and eventually a flag)

But while we have a bump - the USN tends to it in rather more dramatic fashion.

Submarine at full wack vs stationary Sea Mountain (IIRC, the plot was not set at the correct scale and therefore didn't show the Sea Mountain).

**jew_unit** · 23-05-2008, 16:40

Originally Posted by DavidBOC

One very basic thought:

Has no one ever heard of Mylar or acetate sheets FFS??
Not quite as cheap as tracing paper but still one hell of a lot cheaper than a nuke.

Surprised to hear all Captain Fancy got was a reprimand. Should have been sent to the beach. I am sure he will never drive more than a desk for the balance of his career and that career will be short but still. In USN a collision is career ending (other than the one in 80's where the captain got medal, promation to squadron command and eventually a flag)

It wont just be him sailing a desk either. The number of officers far exceeds the number of posts on ships in the navy so all of the navigational students can kiss goodbye to another sea voyage. I feel sorry for the junior officers on the ship as they could well be tainted by their presence on the ship, despite having nothing to do with the accident.

**PassingBells** · 23-05-2008, 16:52

The HMCS Chicoutimi Board of Inquiry report can be found here, if anyone can be bothered to actually read it.

**DavidBOC** · 23-05-2008, 16:56

Originally Posted by DarkBlueLoggie

Originally Posted by DavidBOC

In USN a collision is career ending (other than the one in 80's where the captain got medal, promation to squadron command and eventually a flag)

But while we have a bump - the USN tends to it in rather more dramatic fashion.

Submarine at full wack vs stationary Sea Mountain (IIRC, the plot was not set at the correct scale and therefore didn't show the Sea Mountain).

The damage, oddly, looks a lot like the odd one I mentioned that ended up career enhancing, but that one was with something red and black and wet all over.

**Sven** · 23-05-2008, 16:59

Originally Posted by PassingBells

The HMCS Chicoutimi Board of Inquiry report can be found here, if anyone can be bothered to actually read it.

Thanks PB, but I read the exec summary before posting. :D

**PassingBells** · 23-05-2008, 17:03

Originally Posted by DavidBOC

... other than the one in 80's where the captain got medal, promation to squadron command and eventually a flag)

Was that the one involving another country's fire damaged bomber? Or am I just making that up?

**DavidBOC** · 23-05-2008, 17:09

Things that fly through the air are not supposed to be wet all over. (Well, maybe if flying over Ireland or UK where it seems to be very wet all of the time, at least on my visits.)

Think now, what would be called Red and black at the same time? and is supposed to get wet all over.

By the way, do you know the name of the boat in piccy??

**deSTABlised** · 23-05-2008, 17:17

Originally Posted by PassingBells

The HMCS Chicoutimi Board of Inquiry report can be found here, if anyone can be bothered to actually read it.

Interesting; i hadn't realised it was available online. I unreservedly take back my comment about the deck hatch; that's what you get from believing what you read in papers. An unfortunate chain of events.

**Joe_Private** · 23-05-2008, 18:10

Originally Posted by Sven

Originally Posted by PassingBells

The HMCS Chicoutimi Board of Inquiry report can be found here, if anyone can be bothered to actually read it.

Thanks PB, but I read the exec summary before posting. :D

Read, maybe; understood, doubtful.

**ugly** · 23-05-2008, 18:15

Originally Posted by Sven

DBLoggie

The story checks out to be from the Sligo Weekender.

The Board of Enquiry says that repair were being carried out to the vent in the conning tower lid (is that the hatch). Is it a common fault?

Here is the Guardian report

Canada's defence minister said today he could not rule out suing the British government over the purchase of four second-hand submarines as an investigation got underway into the fire that crippled HMCS Chicoutimi and claimed the life of one its crew.

Bill Graham said it was possible Canada could take legal action against the Ministry of Defence, which sold the submarines including HMCS Chicoutimi to Canada in 1998. HMCS Chicoutimi was the last of the four to be handed over after BAE Systems prepared them for their return to service.

Thats who is responsible for it so sue them!