Discuss Hoon speaks on BW deaths in Current Affairs, News and Analysis on The Army Rumour Service; Originally Posted by BedIn
Perhaps all future S o S for Defence should have to do a 6 month attachement, some of which should be on ops. I'd like to see the Hoonmeister sh*tting his ...
Perhaps all future S o S for Defence should have to do a 6 month attachement, some of which should be on ops. I'd like to see the Hoonmeister sh*tting his nasty suite in the back of a warrior in Al Amarah without any body armour.
I would like to second BI's proposal. Can we have this added to the Arrse Manifesto please?
Ol' Horseface Beckett was heard to rally to her master's defence saying 'Nobody expected Churchill to know about the weapons his forces used'*
No, but the Prime Minister at one time was high up in Youth CND. Now call me old fashioned, but I would say at that point , he knew the differences between ICBMs , and TACNUKES as they held at the Green.
I would further suggest, that he did know enough, to ask the question "What range do these weapons have, and how large an area could they damage"?
So Beckett and that other unspeakable woman Harman , the "Brides of Blair" can appear in as many programmes as they want , saying it was all a misunderstanding.
Mr Hoon said anger over the deaths was unjustified.
"I'm afraid the leader of the Scottish nationalists' comments demonstrate there are clearly no depths to which he will not sink," he told BBC Radio 4's Today programme.
The defence secretary described the killings as a "terrible incident".
But he stressed the US request had been made by military chiefs and had not been discussed with his American counterpart Donald Rumsfeld.
He said he did not accept that the Black Watch's job was "impossible".
"This job was looked at very carefully by senior military officers.
"Can I emphasise that these judgments are made by highly experienced, highly professional military officers.
"This is not something in which politicians would seek to interfere."
Mr Hoon also denied claims there had been "mission creep" when the troops extended patrols to the east of the Euphrates.
Was nae me boss - a big soldier MADE me do it.
Just a small extra point. If situation was examined by the bn. prior to agreement to deploy how did someone miss the big river? Surely any bogof action man could have seen that other side of river would be very attractive to insurgents. Maybe someone did the sum 'square miles over river divided by size 9 desert boot = bloody ridiculous and decided not to mention it. We now have situation where camp dagwood will have too few whilst too few men patrol the other side of the river. Does this not constitute mission creep?
Ol' Horseface Beckett was heard to rally to her master's defence saying 'Nobody expected Churchill to know about the weapons his forces used'* thus displaying the total lack of knowledge af the one prime minister who showed a voracious (if sometimes impractical) interest in these matters.
She also missed the fact that another difference between Churchill and Bliar is that Churchill had actually served and seen action.