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Is there actually a law preventing us from doing the same?

Originally Posted by Chuffit

Is there actually a law preventing us from doing the same?

Yes. And if we tried to bag a US citizen let alone some some fugitive IRA kunt we'd have a carrier group in our face.

There is a certain type of Englishman that is hot and angry at the slightest hint of influence on the Queens' sovereignty from Brussels. Its ironic that DC can grab their greasy public school collars like they were of the inferior breeds almost without any protest from their vacillating government.

Originally Posted by Le_addeur_noir

As the Gulfstream V aircraft described in the article Outsourcing Torture (registration N379P,later N8068V)has mabe several known and published visits to RAF bases and airports in the UK during the reign of B*liar,is it a fact that these kidnappings have,in fact already commenced?.

That is correct, although the government still refuse to investigate.

Two aircraft, a Boeing 737 and a Gulfstream, landed 14 times at RAF (Royal Air Force) Northolt and RAF Brize Norton between October 2003 and May 2004.

The flights were identified by the Guardian newspaper in September 2005, which reported it had seen evidence that the Ministry of Defence “has details of the flights, including their origin and destination.”

Previously, Foreign Secretary Jack Straw had said that the government was “unaware” of any CIA flights since 1998 using UK airspace and transporting detainees.

The Boeing 737, registered N313P, made flights to Tripoli in Libya, Luqa in Malta, and Shannon, Ireland. The Gulfstream, registered first as N379P and later as N8068V, made stops en route to Amman in Jordan, Marrakesh in Morocco, and Doha in Qatar.

The UK National Air Traffic Services (NATS) confirmed that aircraft with CIA tail numbers had made “around 200 journeys” through British airspace over the past five years. A spokesman said guardedly, “They might have been CIA flights taking officials rather than people in orange boiler suits.” The NATS disclosure was also made in a letter responding to parliamentary questions by the Liberal Democrats.

The latest admissions confirm that Britain is complicit in the CIA practice of “extraordinary rendition”—i.e., flying captives to secret prisons located in countries notorious for carrying out torture. It also exposes repeated government claims that it was unaware of any rendition flights after 1998, that no records were kept, or that those records that had been kept had subsequently been destroyed. On this basis, the Blair government had rejected calls for a full investigation into rendition flights, insisting there is no evidence of any illegal activity.

Even following the NATS disclosure, Foreign Secretary Straw continued the government stonewalling. “We know of no occasion where there has been a rendition through UK territory, or indeed over UK territory, nor do we have any reason to believe that such flights have taken place without our knowledge,” he claimed.

However, a report by the parliamentary Foreign Affairs Committee (FAC) has criticised government ministers for failing in their “duty to investigate” allegations that US rendition flights passed through British airspace. Prime Minister Blair dismissed the criticism, saying, “There is no evidence that I know of that any of these 200 flights have been used for rendition.”

If Treatys were reciprocated and British and US laws were given equal status with legal precedence given to the host (the nation holding the suspect), this may be within the bounds of acceptability.

Yet again, it seems that Britain is playing a subservient role and has been intimidated into one sided agreements because it is dealing with the US.

Perhaps if this government invested more of its GDP into intelligence and defence, we would be in stronger position to negotiate with the world super power. However its goal seems to be to change this nation into a socialist third world country. I`d like to see the US try to carry this out in China.

americans are a bunch off c**ts,we should invest in our own technology,what the f**k is happening to our once great country?

If the CIA stopped kidnappings people it would be too bright with out the vapor trails

Originally Posted by cdo_gunner

Bottom line is that any country will say and do exactly as they please as long as all that they'll get is some harsh words.

If the spineless government can't even put a third world country in it's place for the farcical teddybear episode. What exactly do you expect them to do against the US? Cry and go tell to the UN?

Depressing because it's true...

What a bunch of lefty wnak stains for a set of media articles.

If America (or Russia ;) ) wants to help themselves to our Scum and save Mr & Mrs average brit picking up the tax tab, then go ahead.

Originally Posted by In-Limbo

What a bunch of lefty wnak stains for a set of media articles.

If America (or Russia ;) ) wants to help themselves to our Scum and save Mr & Mrs average brit picking up the tax tab, then go ahead.

What if it's you they are after?