Discuss US to withdraw Troops in Current Affairs, News and Analysis on The Army Rumour Service; Originally Posted by Benjaminw1
Originally Posted by londoner
The strange bit as I see it is the plan to withdrawn 12,500 troops from South Korea. Hold on, weren't the North Koreans still part of the ...
The strange bit as I see it is the plan to withdrawn 12,500 troops from South Korea. Hold on, weren't the North Koreans still part of the Axis of Evil just a little while ago? Isn't withdrawing troops in such a situation almost like a green light, saying: "Go ahead and invade, we're not interested any more". (Kind of similar to UK defence cuts that led the Argies to think we couldn't/wouldn't defend the Falklands).
Then Dear Leader tries it on with the South, then US Cavalree to the rescue, therby Saving the World for Democracy, the Baby Bush gets reelected. obvious really.
Is NK in a position to throw the first punch and survive? Either they stay coventional and get thrashed with JDAMs or it goes nuclear and they all tan at an accelerated rate. The Chinese might not be to impressed either, its not like the 50's they have standards of living to improve.
One obvious question we ought to ask ourselves is....."With the American view that there is no longer a requirement for US troops to be based in Germany due to the much (Labour) vaunted 'Peace Dividend'..what exactly is Britains justification for retaining her bases unless we are indeed to be sold out as part of a European Army?"
How does this effect us?......better still....how will B-Liar justify our continued presence?
One obvious question we ought to ask ourselves is....."With the American view that there is no longer a requirement for US troops to be based in Germany due to the much (Labour) vaunted 'Peace Dividend'..what exactly is Britain's justification for retaining her bases unless we are indeed to be sold out as part of a European Army?"
How does this affect us?......better still....how will B-Liar justify our continued presence?
Ignoring the European Army hyperbole: Why are we still in Germany? With the demise of the Cold War there's no strategic reason (with the dubious possible exception of ARRC on political grounds, but more on that in other threads). My understanding is that the only reason that we remain in Germany is that the cost of moving 1 (UK) Armd Div, and associated units back to the UK would be prohibitively expensive. Quite aside from the cost of building the facilities to house the many thousands of personnel, on which real estate would they be located? Increasingly Defence rationalisation - exemplified by the Defence Training Review - is seeking to concentrate assets in centralised sites, closing down and selling off other locations. In other words, the real estate in the UK to which we could potentially be relocated in the future is being sold.
Surely though, it does make sense to withdraw from Germany, if/when possible?
Just Bush's way of saying thanks to the boxheads for not backing him in Iraq...will be a blow to the economy and Schroder and the rest of his leftist will have to figure this one out on their own. Maybe Jackass Chriaq can lean a hand and both the froggies and boxheads can surrender to the declining economy :D
The reorg has been in the planning stage for years.
Just as the US armed forces sorted them selves out post nam, to the point where they now can take down any CONVENTION MILITARY FORCE.
They are looking to their next conquests.
Oil still has a big effect on US miltary thinking.
[quote="gallowglass"]I remember reading about the run-up to this recent announcement some months ago. American forces are being redeployed as opposed to strictly being withdrawn. The redeployment will be to such countries as Poland, Bulgaria, Hungary.... These are places where the U.S. will be welcome.
The Americans have realised that these members of 'New Europe' are more reliable than the selfless cowards of the West, who have been able to hide under the blanket of U.S. protection for 60 years while loudly condemning that very protection.
Fight? They wouldn't know how. In any future war I know who I would want with me. [quote]
Gallow is right.
The Boche have no, I mean no interest in fighting anyone. The yanks get charged or generate a lot of money for the economy (my wife used to work on one of their bases) and Poland makes a sensible place to relocate to, especially with the recent Georgia problems and closeness to the 'stans.
As for why the British army is still in Deutscheland after the RAF left years ago??? I thought it was for the training area and proximity to Bosnia, but now I suspect the budget isn't there to move them permanently to Poland/Warcop or somewhere equally godforsaken.