Thread: Updated rules on communicating with the public and media.

Originally Posted by jim30

... I think a quick FOI enquiry to MOD asking whether serving personnel are allowed to use ARRSE will quickly sort this one out.

And a quick letter to 'Soldier' magazine? Dontcha love those replies.

I'd put a poll up on the topic, but now i'm scared and am going to ask my mummy if I can play outside instead.

Originally Posted by hackle

Originally Posted by jim30

... I think a quick FOI enquiry to MOD asking whether serving personnel are allowed to use ARRSE will quickly sort this one out.

And a quick letter to 'Soldier' magazine? Dontcha love those replies.

Uh oh, can't write to them either, civilans could buy it!!!

As for being a rule that cannot be enforced, that isnt really the point, the point is that the MOD has introduced this rule and if we were to follow it like all good boys and girls then really there isn't much we can say.

But I like the idea about asking for permission to speak to my mum to discuss "defence" matters :D

If I don't have DII and therefore can't read it, does it still apply?

MSR

"Ah Jim - you must be looking forward to your new chair
How is life in Main Building - you might know the brain surgeon who's come up with this one? "

Sadly not in MB so not sure which lunatic came up with this idea. Based on some other things I've seen though, I'm 99.9% certain its emerged from a military officer - don't try and blame this shite on the CS!

Has anyone thought about ringing Defence Press Office to ask them? Defence policy press officer number is 020 721 87909 (from MOD website).

Originally Posted by jim30

Lets let some sanity prevail here

Pitty sanity didn't prevail when the DIN was being drafted!

- firstly my reading of the media contact part is that it applies to us only when we seek to contact the media and represent ourselves as a serving individual by name. This is no different to the previous situation where we not supposed to handle media outside of DNews remit.

It also mentions when taking part in opinion polls and surveys, these are often anominous. Basically the DIN is saying "SShhh" about anything concerning "Defence".

I think a quick FOI enquiry to MOD asking whether serving personnel are allowed to use ARRSE will quickly sort this one out.

Weren't the rules on FOI tightened recently in the name of security? I remember the FOI no longer applys to queries reference MP's, I remember something about the MOD too, perhaps I'm wrong but wouldnt be surprised!

Originally Posted by offog

Every one should write in with an application so that they can talk to their mother, as she is a member of the public talking to her is banned. After 4000 applications in a week they will get the message.

It is also another new government rule that is unaffordable (it is also uninforceable).

The good old union method of working to the rules will show it to be a stupid rule. Next time an MP turns up and asks you a question, tell them you do not have written authority to answer there questions, work to rule of the law, it gets them every time.

edited to add word rather than corect

Nah.... the corporals and above will get shafted withextras and teose below will get Section 69'd. Prejudice to the good order of military discipline etc.

Has anyone got this DIN in full? Only I can't access it until I get on to DII , and then I can't get onto Arrse , as then I would be under Military law.

You see my quandry?

Who the bloody hell writes these things? No, I don't think it was an SO1 , this has political apparatchik written all over it.

Originally Posted by Mikal

Originally Posted by offog

Every one should write in with an application so that they can talk to their mother, as she is a member of the public talking to her is banned. After 4000 applications in a week they will get the message.

It is also another new government rule that is unaffordable (it is also uninforceable).

The good old union method of working to the rules will show it to be a stupid rule. Next time an MP turns up and asks you a question, tell them you do not have written authority to answer there questions, work to rule of the law, it gets them every time.

edited to add word rather than corect

Nah.... the corporals and above will get shafted withextras and teose below will get Section 69'd. Prejudice to the good order of military discipline etc.

If every one gets extras then it has no effect. If the troops get sect 69 ask for CM and or employ a civie solicitor to represent you. See how long it will last when the paper chain starts to expand and becomes the news storie.

edited to get it right

what happens if you feel you get no where and then someone you know rings someone they know and they email a well know newspaper . Is that still not allowed . I am talking on welfare matters persay not strictley defence.or is it?

Originally Posted by PartTimePongo

Has anyone got this DIN in full? Only I can't access it until I get on to DII , and then I can't get onto Arrse , as then I would be under Military law.

You see my quandry?

Who the bloody hell writes these things? No, I don't think it was an SO1 , this has political apparatchik written all over it.

I can't even find it on the AGWEB... Will ping you it when I find it though PTP.

Going only a little off topic..

Parliamentary Select Committee on Defence
Third Report
15 ROLE OF THE MEDIA

http://www.publications.parliament.u...7/5719.htm#a94

15 ROLE OF THE MEDIA

"The Director General Corporate Communications, Mr Tony Pawson, told us that the main aims of the media strategy were to be as open as possible and to meet the practical needs of the media in terms of substance and timeliness."

The article on the link is well worth while, though it did give me more than a shudder that the aim is to control the media rather than inform.

The daily "cross whitehall media briefings" bit also has a hint of the sinister and spin about it.

Originally Posted by PartTimePongo

Has anyone got this DIN in full? Only I can't access it until I get on to DII , and then I can't get onto Arrse , as then I would be under Military law.

You see my quandry?

Who the bloody hell writes these things? No, I don't think it was an SO1 , this has political apparatchik written all over it.

LOL Well seems that I'm on the other side of the fence, I've got it on my screen and if I post it here then I'll be breaking some other rule.

But here is the link for when you get on DII

http://defenceintranet.diiweb.r.mil..../03006DINs.pdf

Originally Posted by burnleybootboy

what happens if you feel you get no where and then someone you know rings someone they know and they email a well know newspaper . Is that still not allowed . I am talking on welfare matters persay not strictley defence.or is it?

Welfare? Defence welfare? Still is "Defence", so technically shhh

I love these half baked ideas that we are supposed to follow as law!

Thanks MATTS , look forward to reading it in full, and the small print too.