Thread: "We must attack Iran."

"Lipo, not quite sure you realise that our cupboard is bare."

You're right. I don't believe it.

Great Britain has aircraft carriers, no? Carrier borne strike aircraft? Precision guided munitions? I believe she does. Why not use them?

"As for the US you have run your train set into the ground over the wrong enemy."

I respectfully submit this is not the case.

"The US is only in a position to effect air strikes."

OK, and? Coalition forces bestride Iran west and NATO east.

"The reponse from Iran who knows."

One shouldn't be surprised if their enemy mobilizes against them. But of course, Iran has been at war with the West for some time.

"It's funny (well it isn't really) but the tone of your posts leads me to firmly believe that you have never served in an operational theatre of war, nor seen at first hand the death, destruction and indiscriminate carnage it can cause."

You are correct. I've never served.

So, for my benefit, if not for others on this board..... your unsurpassed knowledge of Regional conflict, and the pressing home of such conflict using conventional forces and NATO doctine is based upon.....?

I might also suggest that you cannot dominate a battlefield from the air. In order to do so ground forces must be engaged.

I will bet good money this will not happen. If it does - i'm more than happy to go and play that away match.

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"Lipo, not quite sure you realise that our cupboard is bare."

You're right. I don't believe it.


Ah - I get it. In the very year we have finally paid off the loan from WWII to the US, you would like us to come back with the begging bowl to pay for another outing?

"So, for my benefit, if not for others on this board..... your unsurpassed knowledge of Regional conflict, and the pressing home of such conflict using conventional forces and NATO doctine is based upon.....?"

Nothing at all. You'll just have to take my word for it.

"I might also suggest that you cannot dominate a battlefield from the air. In order to do so ground forces must be engaged."

I agree.

OK folks enough of this thread deviation firstly Taz_786 perhaps he didn’t choose all his words well, and perhaps didn’t make the point clear enough that it is his view of how some of the Muslin community will react to any opening up a front with Iran. Not his thoughts however

Blagsta, had a meltdown about a terrorist threat being made? And reporting it too the authorities!

Well I am sure given that the board has one or two service types they would do the same if they felt it important enough, however blabbing it out on the thread as a threat. How very james bone! Is it not!

Especially as your avatar doesn’t exactly look great for a anti terrorist prospective even if it is as you say “In my avatar you'll see 2 people one is me and the other is a Christian Arab, we were mates. The pic was taken on the hills overlooking Beruit.� Nice weapons! Still I am sure there only airsoft. I believe you have agenda, with regards too this region but then don’t we all too some degree?


samgreen47, your post count thus far is nothing to be proud of mostly Muslim this Muslim that drivel!



EX_REME was the only one to question Taz_786 original statement and with a proper question too, have you given taz time too reply too this or ask him if he intends too? That’s a big fat NO then!

Honestly men you’re a witless bunch of c0ckbites, learn to engage brain before you windmill in like a fcuktard!

Lipo well what can I say that he already hasn’t however when he proposes the whole sale destruction of a country and its people you all say nothing! Taz makes a chod statement in this thread and fcuking hell.

I even looked through most of tazs previous post because believe you me if he was an apologists for terrorist fcuktards in this country America or the middle east I would be calling him like I call Lipo.

edited where bold in the first paragraph windmills self for being a c0ckbite which is very dificult for a girl

I love you too, Halo.

"OK folks enough of this thread deviation firstly Taz_786 perhaps he didn’t choose all his words well, and perhaps didn’t make the point clear enough that it is his view of how the Muslin community will react to any opening up a front with Iran."

Who cares what the Muslim community thinks, in any case? Why would it matter?

Oh and Lipo fcuking man up and answer the why you wont sign up question, its the same one they asked by 'philbee1970' in the pensacola news journal forum

Originally Posted by Lipo

"It's funny (well it isn't really) but the tone of your posts leads me to firmly believe that you have never served in an operational theatre of war, nor seen at first hand the death, destruction and indiscriminate carnage it can cause."

You are correct. I've never served.

This shines like a burning beacon! Your previous post really has no grasp on reality!
The Uk does have 1 aircraft carrier while the other has been converted to help support helicopter operations. If we could use both how much damage do you thing 32 harriers are going to do? Iran does have a rather formidable land based anti ship capacity.

What makes you believe that NATO troops in Afghanistan's can a) stop fighting the Taliban and begin ops against Iran? b) gain the approval of there respective governments to attack?
They are equipped to fight a guerilla army not partake in a conventional operation. Oh and I suppose the Taliban will do nothing while the west attacks?

Yes there is opposition but it is ethnic and very local as opposed to a countrywide network. Why do you assume that all the opposition will welcome the west and would we really wish to be associated with some of them?

Originally Posted by Lipo

I love you too, Halo.

Cnut off and die you trolling c0ckbite

Originally Posted by Lipo

"So, for my benefit, if not for others on this board..... your unsurpassed knowledge of Regional conflict, and the pressing home of such conflict using conventional forces and NATO doctine is based upon.....?"

Nothing at all. You'll just have to take my word for it.

Ahhh, the Dubya school of strategy. Faith based, unsupoprted by knowledge or understanding. Brilliant.

It's doing wonderfully well so far, isn't it. :D

Originally Posted by Blagsta

You are an apologist for islamic terrorism, you disgust me, you made a threat and now you are backtracking..

Phalangists rule ok? So an apologist for fascism then?

Originally Posted by Taz_786

However I stand by my prediction that an attack on Iran will lead to further radicalisation and terrorism and that America and the West will reap an extremely bitter fruit from such a foolish policy.

I would take the opposite view, the takfiris and the Salafis won't give a damn. It may however give the Takfiri types the opportunity to exploit the situation in other places.

Lipo, the UK's carrier force amounts to one V/STOL platform and a handfull of Harriers... she is starting the process of building a modified Nimitz class but that beast is several years away from being ready.

Far as the United States goes, we do retain quite a bit of combat power, despite the deployment grind, more than enough to check and decimate any Iranian conventional attack were we to strike via the air at their nuclear assetts. Matter of fact, part of the package on the ground in Iraq has zero to do with fighting the insurgency and everything to do with blocking any overt attempts by the neighbors if they get froggy... these forces are based in very quiet regions with a majority Kurd population.

Iran knows this of course and they are pretty savvy. Good money is on a massive increase of insurgent activity as an initial response to any action on our part followed with an attempted blockade of the Persian Gulf to all shipping traffic via the employment of anti-shipping missiles on mobile TELs. The goal of such would be to get recipients of oil from Saudi, Baharain, Kuwait, UAE, and Qatar to scream bloody murder for us to back down.

A general jihad against the West will not be the result of action against Iran despite what scare mongerers say... the Islamic nations are no where near as tight a brotherhood as some seem to infer. Long as we don't do something stupid like invade Iran everything will be fine... although chances are that military action will not be neccesary as long as we leave Iran a face saving method of defuzing the situation.

"Oh and Lipo fcuking man up and answer the why you wont sign up question, its the same one they asked by 'philbee1970' in the pensacola news journal forum"

Wow, very interesting. Tell philbee1970 hello for me. It's been some time since he's called me a warmonger. Perhaps I'm due.

I think philbee1970 suspects that I am ex-IDF. It's a running gag that never fails to get a rise from him. A very interesting reflex.

Shalom!