Thread: "We must attack Iran."

I thought ran had very little in the way of Oil rserves - hence the rationing within their own borders, and their keen desire to annexe southern Iraq?

Iran will be attacked it stands out like a sore thumb.if looking at the placement of forces geographically the US is upping manpower in Iraq while the UK is reducing and Upping manpower in Afghanistan.....remember 1939 Poland when the largest army in europe was hit by Germany and Russia from both sides and crushed.well get your atlas of the world out and view the tactical overview....straight in both sides till US and UK forces supported by France meet in the centre.reorg and curfew lessons learnt from Iraq in place then say five years time the (Islamic republic of Pakistan) by then ruled by Islamic fanatics watch my tracer it will happen shall be hit on west flank blocked by in the north and south while India holds eastern flank while deterring China and gets Kashmir as a sweetner...another victory for the future world order..........
i know i`ll probably end up in a ditch with an extra eye now

Originally Posted by TURRETMUPPET

Iran will be attacked it stands out like a sore thumb.if looking at the placement of forces geographically the US is upping manpower in Iraq while the UK is reducing and Upping manpower in Afghanistan.....remember 1939 Poland when the largest army in europe was hit by Germany and Russia from both sides and crushed.well get your atlas of the world out and view the tactical overview....straight in both sides till US and UK forces supported by France meet in the centre.reorg and curfew lessons learnt from Iraq in place then say five years time the (Islamic republic of Pakistan) by then ruled by Islamic fanatics watch my tracer it will happen shall be hit on west flank blocked by in the north and south while India holds eastern flank while deterring China and gets Kashmir as a sweetner...another victory for the future world order..........
i know i`ll probably end up in a ditch with an extra eye now

We're doomed!, when did the frogs last win a war, anyone know?

I suppose you could say they won the French revolution, or would that be classed as a draw?

Let us stop and think! The present Iranian regime has its roots in the Revolution of 1979. This was a reaction against the oppressive, tyrannical regime imposed on the country by the USA. Abuses of human rights, summary arrests and imprisonments, torture etc etc. Is it any surprise that the Iranians hate us?

I have no truck with the Islamacist hotheads now in control, but I can understand why the Iranian people are suspicious of the West.

Perhaps the Iranian Government does want to develop nuclear arms (although observers question this), but the lessons of Iraq and Afghanistan are clear - foreign intervention is counter-productive. I do not wish to see one British soldier die for a lost cause.

We need to engage with these people. We need to be friendly. We need to trade and exchange ideas. If so, we have a chance of averting another war.

Please God - let Gordon Brown be a bit more sensible than Tony (45 Minutes) Bliar.

Originally Posted by Winstanley

Please God - let Gordon Brown be a bit more sensible than Tony (45 Minutes) Bliar.

As entirely admirable as this sentiment is, I think it's a wasted prayer. The "Door Broon" is just as much an animal of global money as Phoney Tony was/is.

MsG

Originally Posted by Steven

I suppose you could say they won the French revolution, or would that be classed as a draw?

Is'nt this a bit like playing yourself at chess? lol!

Excellent idea John - here's yer rifle, beltkit and helmet. Now off you go in that direction.

What a fcuking tool. Does anyone honestly think that the Iranians are not going to reply to any attack on their territory ? AQ are children compared to the asymmetric capabilities of the Iranians.

And they invented chess...

President George W Bush privately refers to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who has pledged to wipe Israel "off the map", as a 21st Century Adolf Hitler and Mr Bolton, who remains a close ally of Vice President Dick Cheney, said the Iranian leader presented a similar threat

FFS. I know it's been effective time and time again in getting Cletus and Billy-Bob's blood up, but is it really too much to ask for them to come up with a new analogy?

Just a thought (playing Devil's advocate) If it's OK for us and the USA to have nuclear weapons ,with our really predictable and steady leaders, why not Iran and even North Korea for that matter?. I hope to God they never do but who are we to tell them?

Well, strictly speaking, under the terms of the Non Proliferation Treaty, it's not ok for us to have them either. Article VI states "Each of the Parties to the Treaty undertakes to pursue negotiations in good faith on effective measures relating to cessation of the nuclear arms race at an early date and to nuclear disarmament, and on a Treaty on general and complete disarmament under strict and effective international control."

Let us stop and think! The present Iranian regime has its roots in the Revolution of 1979. This was a reaction against the oppressive, tyrannical regime imposed on the country by the USA. Abuses of human rights, summary arrests and imprisonments, torture etc etc. Is it any surprise that the Iranians hate us?

Should point out that we had a hand in the overthrow of Mossadegh in 1953. It was us who told the Spams he was a communist after he nationalised the Oil Industry (dominated by what would become BP) and we were fcuking them about for 50 years before that.

Originally Posted by Winstanley

The present Iranian regime has its roots in the Revolution of 1979. This was a reaction against the oppressive, tyrannical regime imposed on the country by the USA. Abuses of human rights, summary arrests and imprisonments, torture etc etc. Is it any surprise that the Iranians hate us?

There was as you say an oppressive, tyrannical regime with abuses of human rights, summary arrests and imprisonments, torture etc etc. so there was a revolution which has become an oppressive, tyrannical regime with abuses of human rights, summary arrests and imprisonments, torture etc etc. so no real change except to which group gets f*cked and that ain't no real difference at all.

I would not worry about a strike on the plant until Uncle Sam sends another carrier battle group over there.

Originally Posted by Winstanley

Let us stop and think! The present Iranian regime has its roots in the Revolution of 1979. This was a reaction against the oppressive, tyrannical regime imposed on the country by the USA. Abuses of human rights, summary arrests and imprisonments, torture etc etc. Is it any surprise that the Iranians hate us?

I have no truck with the Islamacist hotheads now in control, but I can understand why the Iranian people are suspicious of the West.

Perhaps the Iranian Government does want to develop nuclear arms (although observers question this), but the lessons of Iraq and Afghanistan are clear - foreign intervention is counter-productive. I do not wish to see one British soldier die for a lost cause.

We need to engage with these people. We need to be friendly. We need to trade and exchange ideas. If so, we have a chance of averting another war.

Please God - let Gordon Brown be a bit more sensible than Tony (45 Minutes) Bliar.

Look, look I have a signed declaration from Herr Havandinnerjacket in which he emphasises his respect agenda for the British and Septics. Rejoice, for there will be no nuclear war! Our nicely-nicely approach is not in the least bit reminiscent of appeasement. We are tough on nuclear war, tough on the causes of nuclear war. Let me say it again, and read my lips: Appeashment, Appeashment, Appeasment!!!

The only bods that can get away politically with doing a Grand TLAM dunk on averdinnerjacket and his dangerous toys is Israel. Funding a bunch of anti-revolutionary revolutionaries is not going to get a: regime change or b: a bunch of said dudes into the nuclear facilities to damage them.

Us boys and the good ol'boys have our hands rather full, and if the post invasion planning of Iraq is anything to go by (and Mogadishu), the septics will well and truly fcuk this one up. I'm all a-quiver at the though of some septic saying "whooops, we're in jail buddy" as a large radioactive cloud spreads all over the ME before irradiating our forces as we try and quell the current US fcuk-up.

Is the MOD in need of upgrading it's Sub launched ICBM'S ? What do we do with the old ones ,Silvermans might be interested. How about we send them to Iran, lets call it operation Pilkington.
Do it soon people, then i do not have to re-decorate.

Ok, I seem to have misplaced my noddy suit and ressy

Looks like army surplus will be doing a fine trade again

Originally Posted by Bravo_Bravo

I would not worry about a strike on the plant until Uncle Sam sends another carrier battle group over there.

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