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    Re: "We must attack Iran."

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Borderer
    Hope we can wait till July before we go to Iran, booked up for Thailand, always wanted to go there So aslong as its not in June I don't really care, I think its a case of the war is in the post and its comming Lets just hope the Royal Mail are doing the work, we may never get it!
    Couldnt we all go to Thailand instead and just pretend they started something, cheap booze and women I've been told. Or pick somewhere nice like the caribbean so we can get the sand and sea. On the other hand if we choose France we could give them a good shoeing then nip onto the south coast for a sunbathe
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    Re: "We must attack Iran."

    Quote Originally Posted by SkiCarver
    ok, a nuclear armed Iran would be VERY bad, but also, I expect that if we (the rest of the world) do nothing to stop them getting the bomb, the cork will be well and truely out of the bottle and many more countries will go nuclear. (especially arab states, who would not appreciate persian dominance in the region.)

    At present the ecomomic and political costs outweigh the benefits of developing a nuclear capability, if that is seen not to be the case, and more countries are arming, then there is nothing to stop proliferation.

    I hope we are stocking up on TLAMs and 'bunker busting' bombs.

    And contrary to a previous post, I expect that the first use will be against either, Israel, New York or London.

    Ski.
    Saudi Arabia and Egypt have already made rumblings along these lines (although that might be something to do with the kebabs Saudi funded the Pakistan nuke programme and presumably could call in favours there if it thought it needed nukes in a hurry.

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    Re: "We must attack Iran."

    Quote Originally Posted by craftsmanx
    Just a thought (playing Devil's advocate) If it's OK for us and the USA to have nuclear weapons ,with our really predictable and steady leaders, why not Iran and even North Korea for that matter?. I hope to God they never do but who are we to tell them?
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    Re: "We must attack Iran."

    Quote Originally Posted by craftsmanx
    Just a thought (playing Devil's advocate) If it's OK for us and the USA to have nuclear weapons ,with our really predictable and steady leaders, why not Iran and even North Korea for that matter?. I hope to God they never do but who are we to tell them?
    Agreed (playing Devil's Advocate's Assistant here).
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    Re: "We must attack Iran."

    Sod Iran.

    Its Pakistan thats needs sorting.

    George mate, It borders Afghanistan, and the Pakistan `fighters` (I hate that terminology) are taking the p*ss, they`ve got nukes too, had no-one told you?


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    Re: "We must attack Iran."

    Where do we attack from? Is it not likely that an attack on Shia Iran will mean alienate the Shias of Iraq further? We may be in an ideal position to attack from Iraq and Afghanistan but do we really want a war on a 3rd front? Especially bearing in mind we are already slowly losing one.

    Perhaps the answer is to withdraw from Iraq - mass forces in Afghanistan let the Israelis deal with Iran ( who I agree cannot be alowed Nukes) - unifying the middle East against them and take the whole lot on at once - Armageddon anyone?

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    Re: "We must attack Iran."

    Quote Originally Posted by dog_eatin_ot_chips
    Sod Iran.

    Its Pakistan thats needs sorting.

    George mate, It borders Afghanistan, and the Pakistan `fighters` (I hate that terminology) are taking the p*ss, they`ve got nukes too, had no-one told you?


    Always the f*cking same, if ya want sommat done do it yerself.
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    Re: "We must attack Iran."

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    Can't we go somewhere different, I'm sick of deserts
    give it 6months and by the sound of the above it'll all be glass mate, no deserts for you and me to worry about!!
    I think I'll go to cyprus instead, now where do I sign :D
    Haha well presented, hopefully see you there,

    Getting back to the point though, somethings defo going to happen, rumblings getting louder with Iran, UK and our American allies its just a matter of timing before it all kicks off, and much as I hate to say it I dont think it'll be quite the war Telic was, I havent even thought about a pre-emptive strike by Israel either, would the fallout get our boys in Basra? would they know in advance?? scary thing living in the world these days
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    Re: "We must attack Iran."

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    Can't we go somewhere different, I'm sick of deserts
    give it 6months and by the sound of the above it'll all be glass mate, no deserts for you and me to worry about!!
    I think I'll go to cyprus instead, now where do I sign :D
    Haha well presented, hopefully see you there,

    Getting back to the point though, somethings defo going to happen, rumblings getting louder with Iran, UK and our American allies its just a matter of timing before it all kicks off, and much as I hate to say it I dont think it'll be quite the war Telic was, I havent even thought about a pre-emptive strike by Israel either, would the fallout get our boys in Basra? would they know in advance?? scary thing living in the world these days
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    Re: "We must attack Iran."

    I was reading about this. Even with an accelerated program Iran won't be able to produce a single warhead until 2009.

    Personally, I think that the Iranian sites need to have a little "nuclear" accident via Israel. Just have to make sure the missile defense system works

    I know that the US has been actively engaging in it's own sort of insurgency in Iran stirring up the pot.

    One would think that if we (meaning the coalition, such that it is) took out Iran, most of the rest of the middle east would fall in line but I think the consequences from such an invasion would put us in a bad light in the worlds eyes.
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    Re: "We must attack Iran."

    Quote Originally Posted by ghost_us
    I was reading about this. Even with an accelerated program Iran won't be able to produce a single warhead until 2009.

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    Sh*t cant we distrupt it slightly I dont get out the army till 2010 send in the saboteurs.
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    Re: "We must attack Iran."

    Quote Originally Posted by danielsan
    Where do we attack from? Is it not likely that an attack on Shia Iran will mean alienate the Shias of Iraq further? We may be in an ideal position to attack from Iraq and Afghanistan but do we really want a war on a 3rd front? Especially bearing in mind we are already slowly losing one.

    Perhaps the answer is to withdraw from Iraq - mass forces in Afghanistan let the Israelis deal with Iran ( who I agree cannot be alowed Nukes) - unifying the middle East against them and take the whole lot on at once - Armageddon anyone?
    Perhaps one game plan might be to destabilise a cohesive nation state into a bunch of warring mini tribal states incapable of doing much more than murdering each other (and of course any foreign troops who happen to be hanging around) and struggling to get the water to come out of the tap again rather than developing nukes to chuck around

    What? Been done??

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    Re: "We must attack Iran."

    Hey, if we pis s them all off enough by invading Iran maybe they would stop fighting each other, wage a proper war against the west and hey presto, the middle east would be unified and stable!!

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    Re: "We must attack Iran."

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    Quote Originally Posted by craftsmanx
    Just a thought (playing Devil's advocate) If it's OK for us and the USA to have nuclear weapons ,with our really predictable and steady leaders, why not Iran and even North Korea for that matter?. I hope to God they never do but who are we to tell them?
    Agreed (playing Devil's Advocate's Assistant here).
    Anyone got any theories?
    How many suicide bombers have the US and UK endorsed? I would think that would be a pretty good reason. We don't believe in the 72 virgins BS.

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    Re: "We must attack Iran."

    not read through all the post but

    nuclear question is wrong with the us naval assets in the gulf they could reduce iran to a pile of ash.

    we will not attack iran - due to oil - they can stop or halt most of the oil being transported from that region. western world / US relies on oil to much to attack iran.

    sooner we develope a large scale alternative means of energy then the better then we can send all these rag heads to allah.

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