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That sounds about right! I was far from amused at being told 'it's not a police issue' by what sounded like a condescending call centre operative working for (insert petty customer services centre here).

The same goes for my local high street, where the chavs are walking round with BB guns and replica firearms as fashion accessories or firing BBs at cars, with nothing being done.

~End of rant.

Originally Posted by cometcatcher

It's a bit of everything to be honest, not least of which the target-based policing culture. I've been threatened a couple of times by chavmongs with weapons (most recently a retractable craft knife), and when I call the police, I'm told it's 'NOT A POLICE ISSUE'.

So what is a Police issue these days?

My local home area has a gang of about 12 teenagers who were terrorising a load of OAP's and burgalaring the area and just sitting on street corners all evening.
Police were called on numerous occassions but same response at time were too busy or cant move them on. One night about 2200hrs i was over from Germany on compassionate leave and a load of these poor innocent, misunderstood teenagers knocked on my dads door when he answered it they tried to barge in and asked to use his toilet and started to abuse him. He is disabled (leg amputated) and my mum had two weeks left to live at the time and these pr**ks knew this. Unfortunately for them they didnt know I was home and duly kicked the shit out of a couple of them and as i was doing this in my dads house ripped one of there shirts off. Neighbours called the police but it took over an hour for anyone to come. The police were more concerned that i had attacked these clowns in my dads house, ripping a shirt, and said that i could be the one in trouble. I went to speak to a couple of the lads fathers who it turned out i was at school with many moons ago and they sorted it out giving there lads a bit of a shoeing instead and didnt press charges. Im not condoning violence or saying my actions were right but who wouldnt of done the same, it showed me though how peoples lives are effected by these gangs. Parents have to be held responsible for there kids actions.

Get DCI Gene Hunt on to them; what do you mean he doesn't exist !!!??

Originally Posted by Fallschirmmongsturm

Get DCI Gene Hunt on to them; what do you mean he doesn't exist !!!??

We'll find out if he does tonight!! :D

Its not fair to lay the blame squarly in the laps of the police. Most of them would likely be more than happy to sort out the little feckers were it not for the oceans of red tape, legislation and human rights crap they have to wade through to do anything. Our thanks must, once again go to the main man.. front and centre Mr Blair!

That's exactly what I am getting at - it's not in the beat bobby's interest to respond to one toe-rag with a knife. All that gets him is a mound of paperwork for no result. Plus, the main aim is to be seen to be winning the war on knife crime, so in telling me it's not a police matter, that's another crime not reported.

There are two fundamental issues here.

1. Insufficient police visibly patrolling. Not responding to incidents but actively discouraging incidents in the first place by being a visible deterrent.

2. Irresponsible parenting. Where are your kids after dark?

This is compounded by a number of other issues including our soft treatment of offenders and prioritising their rights above those of the victims but those are the main two.

All factors listed seem relevant, although immigration less so than the others, as these kids are grandchildren and great-grandchildren of the original immigrants. We lost whatever grip we ever had on the immigration situation sometime in the 1960s.

Surely it's got to be inadequate parenting first and foremost? If that's got right, there will be balanced, secure, happy children for whom policing,weapons availability and music/culture will all be largely irrelevant.