Thread: Forces accomdation - General speaks out.

Bring back 'Changing Rooms', we want Charlie!!!!!. Why not contract them, they can revamp a quarter in less time then it takes to open a new 'HELP' line at MOD!

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If the soldiers don't like it, then they can get out of the Army and go and get a proper job instead. No-one's forced them into it. And they're soldiers. They're supposed to be tough. What are people whinging about? There are loads of people in this country who live in even worse conditions.

Bilal Patel, London, UK

Cnut!

To any of the journos on this site at the moment (and there must be hundreds).
Have you actually had a look at the average married quarter or barrack block room yet? I would have no doubt that there would be enough people willing to show the sh1te we live in.

PS My camp was just mentioned on Radio1 Newsbeat.

Originally Posted by trick400

If the soldiers don't like it, then they can get out of the Army and go and get a proper job instead. No-one's forced them into it. And they're soldiers. They're supposed to be tough. What are people whinging about? There are loads of people in this country who live in even worse conditions.

Bilal Patel, London, UK

Cnut!

Trick

I think you have been a bit harsh on poor old Mr Patel. When one comes from a culture that see 8 to a room as normal living how can you possible expect any sympathy from said person?

I'd be interested to know what Bilal sees as a 'proper job' - flogging mobile phones? working in a call centre? diversity officer? Tosseur!

Originally Posted by Moosaca

Bring back 'Changing Rooms', we want Charlie!!!!!. Why not contract them, they can revamp a quarter in less time then it takes to open a new 'HELP' line at MOD!

I seem to remember Changing Rooms did a remake of a messdeck onboard a ship a couple of years ago (I think it was a carrier). Anyway, as soon as they were gone, they ripped it all out and returned it to its original state due to it being a fire risk.

Where I am at the moment is a fcuking disgrace. I'm living in a portacabin and have been waiting for over 2 months to get a radiator fixed. I haven't got a drying room to use either! The RSM where I am is fully aware of the problems but doesn't give 2 shits about it. Whilst I can appreciate a lot has been done to the accomadation, why is it that every place I've been, the Juniors have far better accomadation?

One has only got to look at Chicksands to see this...

Originally Posted by the_matelot

Where I am at the moment is a fcuking disgrace. I'm living in a portacabin and have been waiting for over 2 months to get a radiator fixed. I haven't got a drying room to use either! The RSM where I am is fully aware of the problems but doesn't give 2 shits about it.

Get snapping - with your phone if you haven't got a camera - and send your pics to campaigns@baffhq.co.uk

Originally Posted by ViroBono

Get snapping - with your phone if you haven't got a camera - and send your pics to campaigns@baffhq.co.uk

I will do when I return off leave. I'll probably end up outing myself though as I'm the only gay in the vill,err, I mean Matelot in the accomadation block! :D

Originally Posted by the_matelot

Originally Posted by ViroBono

Get snapping - with your phone if you haven't got a camera - and send your pics to campaigns@baffhq.co.uk

I will do when I return off leave. I'll probably end up outing myself though as I'm the only gay in the vill,err, I mean Matelot in the accomadation block! :D

Just for the record, the origin of any images/comments shown on the BAFF website will be kept confidential and unattributable.

Most of the comments on the BBC 'Have your say' pages have been well-informed and sensible.

Perhaps there should, however, be a competition for the most wilfully stupid.

This is my personal favourite so far:

Added: Wednesday, 3 January, 2007, 23:13 GMT 23:13 UK

If the serving officers do not like their conditions then surely they have the choice of resigning. No one is forcing them to stay. I am afraid complaining is not enough. Take your employees to court and sue them or stop complaining. Perhaps think about a new career. No one is forcing you to remain in your job. Be like other people, move on.

Andy, Scotland

Originally Posted by hackle

Most of the comments on the BBC 'Have your say' pages have been well-informed and sensible.

Perhaps there should, however, be a competition for the most wilfully stupid.

This is my personal favourite so far:

Added: Wednesday, 3 January, 2007, 23:13 GMT 23:13 UK

If the serving officers do not like their conditions then surely they have the choice of resigning. No one is forcing them to stay. I am afraid complaining is not enough. Take your employees to court and sue them or stop complaining. Perhaps think about a new career. No one is forcing you to remain in your job. Be like other people, move on.

Andy, Scotland

That's exactly the point; they are moving on and the General Staff are now bricking it

The BBC website included this little gem too:

Firstly I would like to say servicemen and women should not expect any favour from the public, they joined the forces of their own free will and are well paid for it. If they don't like moving around every couple of years then leave and get another job.
Standards of accommodation have never been great and if they have slipped further still there is only one group of people to blame, the officers in charge, they set the standards and it is their responsibility to ensure they are maintained.

Courtesy of:

Username: chillyDerek

Name: Derek Spear

Registered: 04/01/07

Total Posts: 1

I hope this is not Derke Twigg's alter-ego...

Accommodation is appalling, we all know this and there are a lot of reasons for this:

1. Management of the MQ accommodation is awful. There is no joined-up solution for the cleaning and handover of a MQ on march-out for a start We have gone backwards in this respect...

Any faults are dealt with by contractors whose guidelines generally allow for two possible outcomes:

a. The contractor can carry out hugely expensive jobs on condemned electrics etc earning their company a fortune at call-out rates for a fault that was probably reported many times before but ignored in the name of budgets.

b. The contractor earns a large call-out fee but does nothing other than issue a temporary heater or stops a leak whilst not actually sorting out the fault, which is actually then returned to the routine system and sorted out after many weeks.

(these situations assume you have kids, which provide leverage, if not you are truly fecked...)

2. When SLA is discussed the government will quickly change the subject to the many projects on the go, which are by far the exception rather than the rule and even if new accommodation has been built/updated in a location there is rarely enough and the remainder has been let go to such a degree it is like something out of Stalingrad.

If the Government are content and the public have the same reaction as Mr Spear (fatherless) above perhaps a photo of accommodation from each and every barracks and MQ area should be submitted to the media with the location and date taken.

Would this embarrass anybody?

Anyone have the misfortune to reside in the Sgts Mess transit accom in Thiepval Bks Lisburn. That place was also a fekkin disgrace. Portacabins with double bunks, door-less lockers, no keys for the front doors, heaving sinks and showers that didn't work. Vitez in the 90's was superior to that shiite hole.

Liam Fox has just been on News 24.

He condemned the situation with regards to accomodation but refused to say if the Tories would give the Armed Forces more money for getting them up to scratch.

How VERY Conservative