The Observer questions why Blair hasn't been impeached.
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/comme...928393,00.html
Strange how the word impeach hasn't been used much to date. Hopefully this article will set the ball rolling. Maybe I'll set up an 'Impeach Blair' website.
Man, you come right out of a comic book.
Don't worry after the US elections on the 7th of Nov, tony's house of cards will begin to fall - he'll have an interesting retirement what with the cash for peerages investigation with lord levy on record saying ' I will not go down for Tony'. With his Iraq legacy going on and on and on, its only a matter of time before he gets broken on the wheel - the new lot will need to aportion blame.
Do it.
Roger that.
Man, you come right out of a comic book.
http://www.backingblair.co.uk/
Not set up to bring about the downfall of the government, hillarious nevertheless :D
(Especially London Underground vid on the right)
I am the fly in your works, and a spanner in your ointment
I am willing to bet that there will be no cash for peerages convictions, that Blair will not be impeached or arrested (any more than any other major politician will be prosecuted)
I agree, especialy with TB's PC Poodle sitting at NSY. It seems that Parliment have now asked for an update into the investigation as they fear it is being put on the back burner.Originally Posted by Sven
AND DO IT NOW
'Never give in, never give in, never; never; never; never - in nothing, great or small, large or petty - never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense'
Sir winston Churchill.
I am not sure but has there ever been another case whereby a lying politician who has caused unecessary death by lying to the nation has been brought to a court.
'Never give in, never give in, never; never; never; never - in nothing, great or small, large or petty - never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense'
Sir winston Churchill.
Being totally serious for a minute, would any of his actions or indeed all of them considered together, constitute a treasonous act ?
What would constitute a treasonous act in today's "enlightened" moral market place?
A Coup d'Etat
Quite. I think that Britain has suffered a coup d'etat by stealth over the last 9 years and is only just coming to realise the fact.A Coup d'Etat
Anyway, I suspect that although technically correct, your answer was made tongue in cheek, so I ask again, what would be considered treasonous?
Henry Porter's articles are well worth a read - he provoked Bliar into a spittle-flecked rant in the Observer a couple of months ago.
Impeaching Bliar may seem far-fetched but it isn't really. I think if Bliar refused to fall on his sword following loss of a vote of confidence or one of the other triggers for resignation, then impeachment could be invoked.
Early Day Motion 1088 may prove uncomfortable, particularly if the US get a drubbing next month and admit that the game is up.
http://www.impeachblair.org/
CONDUCT OF GOVERNMENT POLICY IN RELATION TO THE WAR AGAINST IRAQ
That this House believes that there should be a select committee of seven honourable Members, being members of Her Majesty's Privy Council, to review the way in which the responsibilities of Government were discharged in relation to Iraq and all matters relevant thereto, in the period leading up to military action in that country in March 2003 and in its aftermath.
MPs from all main parties have come together to put forward a motion to review government policy in relation to the war against Iraq.
A committee will be set up, consisting of seven Members of Parliament and, leaving no leaves unturned, they will look into the central question that neither the Hutton and Butler Inquiries addressed - were the Parliament and country misled?
Too many questions remain unanswered and the people have been misled time and time again - this conduct cannot continue to go unchecked. The Members of Parliament backing this motion believe it is their duty to do all they can to hold this Government to account in order to restore the people's faith in the democratic process.
1. Clarke, Kenneth.
2. Simpson, Alan.
3. Campbell, Menzies.
4. Llwyd, Elfyn.
5. Salmond, Alex.
6. Hogg, Douglas.
Abbott, Diane.
Ainsworth, Peter.
Alexander, Danny.
Amess, David.
Ancram, Michael.
Austin, John.
Bacon, Richard.
Baker, Norman.
Baldry, Tony.
Barrett, John.
Benyon, Richard.
Binley, Brian.
Bone, Peter.
Bottomley, Peter.
Brake, Tom.
Breed, Colin.
Brooke, Annette.
Brown, Lyn.
Browne, Jeremy.
Browning, Angela.
Bruce, Malcolm.
Burstow, Paul.
Burt, Lorely.
Butterfill, John.
Cable, Vincent.
Campbell, Ronnie.
Carmichael, Alistair.
Caton, Martin.
Challen, Colin.
Clapham, Michael.
Clegg, Nick.
Cohen, Harry.
Corbyn, Jeremy.
Crabb, Stephen.
Cryer, Ann.
Curry, David.
Davey, Edward. Davies, David TC.
Dorrell, Stephen.
Dorries, Nadine.
Duddridge, James.
Dunne, Philip.
Etherington, Bill.
Evans, Nigel.
Farron, Timothy.
Featherstone, Lynne.
Fisher, Mark.
Flynn, Paul.
Foster, Don.
Galloway, George.
George, Andrew.
Gerrard, Neil.
Gibson, Ian.
Gidley, Sandra.
Goldsworthy, Julia.
Goodwill, Robert.
Gray, James.
Greening, Justine.
Greenway, John.
Hancock, Mike.
Harris, Evan.
Harvey, Nick.
Heath, David.
Hemming, John.
Hoey, Kate.
Holmes, Paul.
Hopkins, Kelvin.
Hosie, Stewart.
Howarth, David.
Hughes, Simon.
Huhne, Chris.
Hunter, Mark.
Jackson, Glenda.
Jackson, Stewart.
Jones, Lynne. Kawczynski, Daniel.
Keetch, Paul.
Kennedy, Charles.
Kilfoyle, Peter.
Kirkbride, Julie.
Kramer, Susan.
Lamb, Norman.
Law, Peter.
Laws, David.
Leech, John.
Liddell-Grainger, Ian.
Lilley, Peter.
MacNeil, Angus.
Main, Anne.
Marshall-Andrews, Robert.
McDonnell, Alasdair.
McDonnell, John.
McGovern, Jim.
Milton, Anne.
Mitchell, Austin.
Moore, Michael.
Moss, Malcolm.
Mulholland, Greg.
Murrison, Andrew.
Oaten, Mark.
Opik, Lembit.
Ottaway, Richard.
Pelling, Andrew.
Penning, Mike.
Penrose, John.
Price, Adam.
Pugh, John.
Reid, Alan.
Rifkind, Malcolm.
Riordan, Linda.
Robertson, Angus.
Rowen, Paul. Russell, Bob.
Younger-Ross, Richard.
Sanders, Adrian.
Shapps, Grant.
Shepherd, Richard.
Short, Clare.
Smith, Robert.
Stanley, John.
Streeter, Gary.
Stuart, Graham.
Stunell, Andrew.
Swinson, Jo.
Syms, Robert.
Tapsell, Peter.
Taylor, Ian.
Taylor, Matthew.
Taylor, Richard.
Teather, Sarah.
Thurso, John.
Trickett, Jon.
Vaizey, Edward.
Walker, Charles.
Wallace, Ben.
Wareing, Robert N.
Webb, Steve.
Weir, Mike.
Whittingdale, John.
Williams, Hywel.
Williams, Mark.
Williams, Roger.
Williams, Stephen.
Willis, Phil.
Willott, Jenny.
Wilshire, David.
Wilson, Robert.
Wishart, Pete.
Wood, Mike.
Let me guess.
There are 119 or so associating with the early day motion. No - there are 156.
Now there are 664??? MPs in the House. 664 - 156 = 508
I believe the NO's have it
I hope that he does. With great power comes great responsibility. To abuse this responsibility for a personal agenda, whether that is to placate the American President or for monetary reasons is inexcusable.
I was quite happy to cross the start line on D+0, due to this being "unfinished business" from 1991,however, the reasons to invade were suspect at the very least.
Accountability must work at all levels and I seem to remember "Buffoon" stating that all the equipment was "in theatre" prior to the offensive.
That being the case, then why did I cross into Iraq with 10 rounds of small arms ammunition then!!!!! No plates for the CBA either. Insufficient rations, as during the "concentration" phase in N Kuwait the "MREs" we were supplied with (due to inadequacies of single meal rationing) were stopped by the Americans (No doubt they rationed for themselves and not the British Forces, understandably).
This was a lie from a Senior Minister of the Government. These politicians were voted in, and ultimately are accountable for their actions. In too many cases this accountability has been established through media pressure only.
Should Bliar be "impeached". Damn right he should. There has been so many dirty, underhand dealings with this Iraq liberation, from Goldsmiths "about turn" on legality of war, through to the suicidal pressure brought to bear on Dr Kelly, to the 10 year out of date students thesis on Iraqs alleged WMD, that anything else would be a travesty to the Servicemen who have given thier lives to a false cause.
In short, YES, HE SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE!
In order for a war to be just, three things are necessary. First, the authority of the sovereign. Secondly, a just cause. Thirdly, a rightful intention. - Saint Thomas Aquinas
That was a very good post - well said that man-you really ought to post more. Very good points dude.
'Never give in, never give in, never; never; never; never - in nothing, great or small, large or petty - never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense'
Sir winston Churchill.
What was the lie Mac
Surely there would be to many to list
All people have the right to freedom of speech and thought even if those in power do not agree with it, perhaps more so in that case.
I actualy think the US Mid Terms will have an effect on the UK, if Bush looses the support of either or better still both Houses, he will be out to save his own hide, so alot of the support for the gimp in No10 will disapear
Sven,What was the lie Mac
Numerous from Hoon such as:
Geoff Hoon, the Defence Secretary, was accused of lying about his role in the public naming of David Kelly by the scientist's family yesterday before Lord Hutton retired to consider his report.
A National Audit Office report revealed that huge amounts of vital equipment, from desert boots to body armour and night vision equipment, had failed to reach the troops on time.
The report published last week by the National Audit Office controverted the evidence given by the Secretary of State to the committee. Quite plainly, he has misled Parliament.
Defence minister tells MPs he did not mislead inquiry
ISC 'disturbed' that Hoon did not detail concerns of intelligence staff about Iraq arms dossier
Geoff Hoon told MPs he had "no intention whatsoever other than to be open and straightforward" with the intelligence and security committee (ISC) over the Iraq dossier.
Depends which "lie" you wish to dwell on. For a man in such a Senior post, and supposedly possessing an "above average" intellectual capability, the amount of misleading (otherwise known as lies) information he has told the General Public and Parliament themselves about Iraq reports, and equipment is truly shocking.
Hope this answers your question.
In order for a war to be just, three things are necessary. First, the authority of the sovereign. Secondly, a just cause. Thirdly, a rightful intention. - Saint Thomas Aquinas
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