ARmy Rumour SErvice

**whitecity** · 08-05-2006, 07:27

Originally Posted by tomahawk6

Harper's magazine is a very respected US publication that has been in print since 1850. Hardly a source to be dismissed so lightly merk.

It may well be a highly respected magazine, and the text you pointed to may well be of great relevance. However, that particular text showed not the slightest bearing on the Gros's/CIA subject. I'm clearly missing something here. Did you link to the wrong article? Or is there a link between Brent Wilke's, Mitchell Wade, Cunningham and their alleged malpractice's and Goss that Harper's, for whatever reason, has chosen not to write about.

Originally Posted by tomahawk6

Goss wasn't popular because his job was to clear out the leftists in the CIA. He has made alot of progress in that regard. Same sort of house cleaning at State has gone on.

Now I'm really confused. Has Goss gone because of:
1. A brewing scandal.
2. He's got the finger from the 'leftists in the CIA'.
3. He's got the finger from the Whitehouse.
4. He walked.

**whitecity** · 08-05-2006, 18:34

From the BBC profile of Gen Michael V Hayden (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4750377.stm):

Originally Posted by BBC

He is said to love Shakespeare.

Surely this rules him out for the CIA job. In fact, how could he have possibly progressed so far in his career with that vice?

**Mere_Civilian** · 08-05-2006, 20:08

But surely Hayden is a professional intelligence officer who comes with some track record of reform. That must stand him in some stead?

M-C

(Who is still wiping food debris of the screen at the idea of Langley being a hotbed of 'leftists')

**crabtastic** · 09-05-2006, 04:54

Originally Posted by Mere_Civilian

But surely Hayden is a professional intelligence officer who comes with some track record of reform. That must stand him in some stead?

M-C

(Who is still wiping food debris of the screen at the idea of Langley being a hotbed of 'leftists')

I'm not sure it will. I think what bothers a lot of people on the Hill is that he's already been implicated in a lot of the shadier goings-on regarding the Administrations (mis)use of the USIC. They've long been worried about the consolidation of intelligence activity within DoD too.

I wouldn't want to put money on how it's going to turn out, but there's a very good chance that it could get messy. Arlen Specter, Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee wants to have a little chat with him over the domestic surveillance issue and there are a fair few mavericks (formerly known as "moderates") on the Republican side of the Intelligence Committee.

Olympia Snow (who needs to get re-elected in fairly liberal Maine in November), Chuck Hagel from Nebraska, Mike Dewine of Ohio has what promises to be a tough election campaign in Ohio ahead of him, all serve on the SSCI. We already know that even right wing nutter, Saxby Chambliss, is against the idea. It's conceivable that there could be a floor vote on his confirmation without the Committee's endorsement, but to do so would probably send a signal to the Senate Republicans that it's a free vote. All it takes is one of the above members to cross over and you'll have such a situation. Alternatively they can abstain from a committee vote and pass the decision straight to the Senate floor- but that didn't work for UN Ambassador John Bolton (who ended up being a recess appointment- his appointment will have to be voted on in January.

If Hayden is to pull this off it wouldn't hurt his chances to go on a major charm offensive over the next few weeks. The trouble is, as an Int Offr, charm isn't one of his strengths. (Apologies to my friends of that persuasion.) He's a tecchie at heart.