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**BuggerAll** · 10-08-2012, 19:10

A Labour Councillor called Alan Charles wanted to stand for the post of police commissioner in Derbyshire but is disqualified because he committed a crime 47 years ago when he was 14.

Apparently any criminal offence that could have led to a custodial sentence is a bar to becoming a Police Commissioner. Quite right too, I hear more than a few of you saying - of course a criminal should not be a Police Commissioner but...

We live in a democracy. It should up to the voters who we choose to vote for. If we are perverse enough to want a criminal as PC then that's the way it is. As revolting as it is we have members of the IRA who are voted into parliament because that's what the punters want. It should not be up to the government to decide who we may or may not vote for.

Of course being a Labourite should be an instant disqualification from public office.

**Mr_Fingerz** · 10-08-2012, 19:21

If it's any consolation a Judge has also said that Magistrates cannot stand for election as PCC's. They have to resign from the bench.

This is Judge made law and the judge in question has been threatened with Judicial Review if he doesn't change his mind. Most, though not necessarily all of the Mags who wanted to stand were/are Tories.

**Fatcivvy** · 10-08-2012, 19:28

Also happened in Bristol http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-19181071]. Funnily enough, he's also Labour.

**Boumer** · 10-08-2012, 19:32

Though I did read the point somewhere that a conviction doesn't prohibit someone from being an MP.

So Eric Joyce could still be Home Secretary, despite assaulting police officers.

**pimpernel** · 10-08-2012, 19:39

This traunch of elections is worth watching as it heralds the "Hill Street Blues" style of policing, not neccesary a bad thing.
But do have a look at who is standing for you, and also the panel responsible for keeping them in check as we live in interesting times!

**Boumer** · 10-08-2012, 19:53

Originally Posted by pimpernel

This traunch of elections is worth watching as it heralds the "Hill Street Blues" style of policing, not neccesary a bad thing.

Or alternatively, here comes another lot of people obsessed with fake statistics to keep their jobs despite the reality of the streets.

We've enough of these pricks already. They're called ACPO.

Both them and this new lot are Police PONTI's, and should be treated with the respect appropriate.

**seaweed** · 10-08-2012, 20:03

The upshot of this could be large areas where the job is captured by someone with the Leftie political machine behind him leading to the total collapse of any sort of protection for the decent citizen and householder or shopkeeper.

**BuggerAll** · 10-08-2012, 20:04

Originally Posted by Mr_Fingerz

If it's any consolation a Judge has also said that Magistrates cannot stand for election as PCC's. They have to resign from the bench.

This is Judge made law and the judge in question has been threatened with Judicial Review if he doesn't change his mind. Most, though not necessarily all of the Mags who wanted to stand were/are Tories.

I think that's slightly different. Holders of 'offices of profit under the crown' (if I've got the expression right) such as constables, members of the regular armed forces, civil servants cannot stand for election. They have the option of ceasing to hold such an office.

A person who is a magistrate is not barred from standing as a PC but must relinquish the magistrates job first.

**BuggerAll** · 10-08-2012, 20:06

Originally Posted by seaweed

The upshot of this could be large areas where the job is captured by someone with the Leftie political machine behind him leading to the total collapse of any sort of protection for the decent citizen and householder or shopkeeper.

Originally Posted by Boumer

Or alternatively, here comes another lot of people obsessed with fake statistics to keep their jobs despite the reality of the streets.

We've enough of these pricks already. They're called ACPO.

Both them and this new lot are Police PONTI's, and should be treated with the respect appropriate.

Then, presumably, the punters won't reelect them as they will have a pretty good idea what the reality of the streets is.

**DeltaDog** · 10-08-2012, 21:17

Criminal records are a joke in this country.

A mate of mine was a cunt in his younger years, and went to prison (quite rightly, even by his own account) for assault.

In his case, prison worked brilliantly and he came out a reformed man... Only to find that because he'd been to prison, his chances of ever finding meaningful employment were absolutely zero.

Fortunately, he had enough about him to start a business and is now doing quite well, but you have to wonder how many others have become professional doleys or even gone into crime as a result.