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    British jihadies in Syria?

    BBC News - Syria conflict: Photographer John Cantlie 'held by UK jihadists'

    He said there were "between 10 and 15 young jihadists from the UK" who he described as being "a mixed bunch".

    Some seemed "shocked at what had happened" and may have left the camp, arguing that it was not what they had come for.
    Other British captors were described by him as being "vindictive".
    The photojournalist said: "I think these are disenchanted young men from the UK who are now unified under this jihadist banner. I think they took out their angst on us."
    Hardly surprising I suppose, but I wonder how many of these men are not disenchanted with the benefits system, healthcare and education system (if only for males) and the lack of persecution for religous beleifs...

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    I'm sure they're very concerned about education reforms. It's just unfortunate that Gove's plans for reform don't involve installing some fucking loony mullahs into primary schools to whip up 7 year olds into a religious fervour. Such a shame that some of our ethnic minorities don't feel that their views and values are represented in our current government's policies....

    ETA...At least if young British jihadis are busy fighting in Syria they won't be able to go and claim state benefits. Every cloud...
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    Of course they'll claim benefits! They'll say they're on holiday or attending a funeral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nogbad View Post
    Of course they'll claim benefits! They'll say they're on holiday or attending a funeral.
    I'd just like to point out, despite an enthusiasm for snicking the heads off fellow Brits, they appear to on the same side as wee Willy Hague, King Abdullah and Barry, they may well end up rotting in mass graves, so think of it as welfare for work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alib View Post
    I'd just like to point out, despite an enthusiasm for snicking the heads off fellow Brits, they appear to on the same side as wee Willy Hague, King Abdullah and Barry, they may well end up rotting in mass graves, so think of it as welfare for work.
    Just because they're fighting Assad doesn't mean they're after the same thing and they hardly even seem to be on the same side. They couldn't give a fuck about liberating Syrians. As soon as Assad falls (if he falls) it'll be a 3 way conflict between the remaining loyalists, the FSA and over time the Salafists/ AQ types/ sharia nut jobs/ muslim brotherhood.

    One thing I'd like to know is if all the recent targeting of coptic christians is being perpetrated by the FSA or an entirely different Islamist movement. Pretty worrying if that's already happening before Assad's even fallen...
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    See Mali. There secular Tuareg rebels joined up with better equipped (thanks to money from Saudi Arabia) Salafists to fight the government. The nomadic desert-dwelling Tuareg had a serious cause due to being discriminated by the resident farmers, who were supported by the government (thought the fight goes both ways, for centuries the Tuareg have, as desert pirates, been capturing settled farmers as slaves). Now the Salafists have taken over and are, e.g. in Timbuktu, destroying ancient Sufi mosques as being "heretic".

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    I read this article in the Times on Sunday. Sounded very scary. A real sad point that came out was the so called British jihadists attitude. Every body else was wrong. All thay were there for was to bring Sharia into Syria and this would continue the war againts the USA. When I read this these "Brits" sounded so confused about the whole reason for being there. Who ever had taught them was so far off the mark that there was no way they were in the right frame of mind. Yet the ones that showed any respect or help were the true Muslims, that followed the basic tennets of their faith. If this is the indoctrination that is going on here in Britain it is worrying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bingobongo View Post
    Just because they're fighting Assad doesn't mean they're after the same thing and they hardly even seem to be on the same side. They couldn't give a fuck about liberating Syrians. As soon as Assad falls (if he falls) it'll be a 3 way conflict between the remaining loyalists, the FSA and over time the Salafists/ AQ types/ sharia nut jobs/ muslim brotherhood.

    One thing I'd like to know is if all the recent targeting of coptic christians is being perpetrated by the FSA or an entirely different Islamist movement. Pretty worrying if that's already happening before Assad's even fallen...
    The rebel groups have apparently splintered and are probably fighting each other as well as the Assad regime - Sky had an interesting report on it a couple of days ago. I sometimes think that the Russian stand is more credible than the West believes. Whatever, civil war now appears to have broken out - how that will affect our little jihadists remains to be seen.
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    Fair play to them, can you imagine a bunch of chavs traveling to Dover to repel them immigrants? Talk about standing up for your beliefs, the closest we got were football hooligans but these mad fuckers are putting their life on the line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walther View Post
    See Mali. There secular Tuareg rebels joined up with better equipped (thanks to money from Saudi Arabia) Salafists to fight the government. The nomadic desert-dwelling Tuareg had a serious cause due to being discriminated by the resident farmers, who were supported by the government (thought the fight goes both ways, for centuries the Tuareg have, as desert pirates, been capturing settled farmers as slaves). Now the Salafists have taken over and are, e.g. in Timbuktu, destroying ancient Sufi mosques as being "heretic".
    Good point. Same thing will happen in Syria probably (or something similar). As a result, in the eyes of the populace, the revolution is now not quite so wonderful as many originally thought it to be. While before it was to overthrow Assad and install proper governance that would bring reform, the situation now is totally different. There's no clear alternative government waiting in the wings and no clear idea what will happen after Assad's gone. Instead the poor fuckers are sitting there contemplating a power vacuum in which their religious freedom will be eroded and a large Islamist movement will emerge (and seems to already be emerging) hell bent on dragging Syria back in to the dark ages.

    I bet they can't wait for 'liberation' now...
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