ARmy Rumour SErvice

**sunnoficarus** · 04-07-2012, 09:30

Originally Posted by Victorian_Major

Nothing like a bit of uninformed conjecture whilst people are still missing, is there? Regardless of the incident itself, do you know what the AEA for the crew is? 'Probably' enough to make a survivable and bearable night in the North Sea is the answer.

Back to the sticky pages of Jane's for you.

The only one doing the clueless bit is you bonehead.

Having actually done a spell in the North Sea on Rigs, and all the offshore survival courses that go with that, I am rather well aware of how long you can last in the water up there, even in a poopy suit. And no, I never took the slightest notice about survival in the water during all the assorted training when I wore a blue suit either.

Back to licking the sticky windows in the privacy of my ignore list for you.

PrinceAlbert · 04-07-2012, 09:34

One of the guys that was rescued has died in hospital according to the Metro.

[QUOTE=Victorian_Major;4493698]'Probably' enough to make a survivable and bearable night in the North Sea is the answer.
.[/QUOTE]

Are you on drugs. They'd have no chance of a night in the North Sea, even if they were wearing their immersion suits.

**Flaggie** · 04-07-2012, 09:42

OK, for Arrse to accuse anyone of tastelessness is a bit pot/kettle, but does anyone else find it almost sub-NAAFI to start the article quoted with "Two £40 million Tornado GR4 aircraft ..."?

PrinceAlbert · 04-07-2012, 09:49

[QUOTE=Flaggie;4493781]OK, for Arrse to accuse anyone of tastelessness is a bit pot/kettle, but does anyone else find it almost sub-NAAFI to start the article quoted with "[COLOR=#3E3E3E]Two £40 million Tornado GR4 aircraft ..."?[/COLOR][/QUOTE]

They cost that much!?!?

**Drlligaf** · 04-07-2012, 10:04

The immersion suit is only part of the survival equation as it merely keeps you dry. The bunny suit underneath is keeps you warm, but the real bonus is the dinghy, that increases the chances of survival enormously. As for location aids, I known the Harrier had an automatic system whereby a signal was sent on 243.00 went the pilot separated from the seat on ejection, or if he forgot to disconnect after a sortie! I assume that Tornado has the same system, furthermore the crew also have SARBE which transmits continuously on 243 and has a voice capability.

**King_of_the_Burpas** · 04-07-2012, 10:08

Surely a Nimrod would have been able to carry on the search last night after the helicopters were called back.

**solomon88** · 04-07-2012, 10:19

Originally Posted by King_of_the_Burpas

Surely a Nimrod would have been able to carry on the search last night after the helicopters were called back.

Don't RNLI boats have receivers for the locator beacon frequencies?

**Victorian_Major** · 04-07-2012, 10:24

Originally Posted by PrinceAlbert

One of the guys that was rescued has died in hospital according to the Metro.

Are you on drugs. They'd have no chance of a night in the North Sea, even if they were wearing their immersion suits.

Not the only thing they are carrying. They carry the one man-dinghy - a rotten experience but one that separates you from the chilling effects of the sea.

**Victorian_Major** · 04-07-2012, 10:29

Originally Posted by sunnoficarus

The only one doing the clueless bit is you bonehead.

Having actually done a spell in the North Sea on Rigs, and all the offshore survival courses that go with that, I am rather well aware of how long you can last in the water up there, even in a poopy suit. And no, I never took the slightest notice about survival in the water during all the assorted training when I wore a blue suit either.

Back to licking the sticky windows in the privacy of my ignore list for you.

Boo Hoo. As I replied to PA, they carry a dinghy - in my two hours in a GR4 I sat on one and many of my Lynx hours were spent sat on one. I've also bobbed in the North Sea, Orwell, Plymouth Harbour and Clyde in one. But I'm glad that spending some time on rigs equips you to be an expert on sea survival.

If a little knowledge is a dangerous thing then you are consistently the Anthrax of Arrse. 6600 posts in 15 months and mostly shit. What are your links with the Army exactly?

Usually you are worth a good ignoring too but there's an active SAR operation for two lost crew going on an press arousal to boot. A good time for the uniformed gobshite to STFU.

**A2_Matelot** · 04-07-2012, 10:39

Originally Posted by Victorian_Major

Nothing like a bit of uninformed conjecture whilst people are still missing, is there? Regardless of the incident itself, do you know what the AEA for the crew is? 'Probably' enough to make a survivable and bearable night in the North Sea is the answer.Back to the sticky pages of Jane's for you.

Well, having taught Aircrew survival at RNSES, I'd say on balance SoI was probably right, noting he caveated his comment with 'probably'. Lots of variables, sea state, sea temp, injuries gained upon ejection, did they get into a life raft etc etc.Just got to hope they managed to bang out successfully and are ok. Its pretty difficult to predict survival probability, so many people have survived so many 'unsurvivable' events.