Discuss Labour to admit they 'Got it wrong on immigration' in Current Affairs, News and Analysis on The Army Rumour Service; Problem is that what we want is well-educated & hard working people. Sadly that's not what we seem to get.
What Milliband is talking about is European migration & IMHO we are more likely to ...
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Problem is that what we want is well-educated & hard working people. Sadly that's not what we seem to get.
What Milliband is talking about is European migration & IMHO we are more likely to get what we want from Europe than the third world. However it is racist to object to vast numbers of third world people...
Quite frankly I'd remove visa requirements for SANZA nations & Canada. We have a certain degree of shared heritage which we do not have with Europe & the RoW.To eat well in England one must have breakfast three times a day
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If forced to compete with the whole world most people wouldn't fair very well I think.
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"If a terrorist organisation wanted to knock out the moral compass of Britain, all they'd have to do is to kill 100 celebrities at random. The entire country would have an instant nervous breakdown."
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We do, it’s just that, “Immigrant buys own £20m house through sweat of brow” is unlikely to get any sub-editors moist. Good news is rarely considered news, particularly when immigration is involved. Originally Posted by CaptainPlume
My biggest gripe with our immigration system is that it goes for the easy targets: penalising and discouraging the legitimate (the easy wins) while not making much dent in the dross that we actually need to block or get rid of. Targetitis is the disease, radical surgery the cure.
Squadron Leader Peter Carted made a similar mistake. Not all Americans and Canadians have European roots, particularly now they’re stepping up their own immigration campaigns. Remove the visa requirements for those countries is to effectively entrust them to have screened out the undesirables on our behalf. I’ve seen enough examples at work to think that a very bad idea. Originally Posted by CaptainPlume We need people who look to the stars, holding the nation and the world in their hearts but at the same time we need down-to-earth people who can do serious and trying work.
In a definite sense, a country's power and prestige isn't only a reflection of its economic power but also a reflection of its people's quality and morality. Moreover, I think the latter is actually more important in the long-term.
http://www.economist.com/blogs/multi...na_has_changed
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Thing is, we are being forced to compete with the whole world. That's why we need to encourage the best and brightest to come here. Originally Posted by Pyianno
Until we wake up to the fact that we need the rest of the world more than it needs us and that there are better and more welcoming options for these people elsewhere, we're not going to get the balance right.We need people who look to the stars, holding the nation and the world in their hearts but at the same time we need down-to-earth people who can do serious and trying work.
In a definite sense, a country's power and prestige isn't only a reflection of its economic power but also a reflection of its people's quality and morality. Moreover, I think the latter is actually more important in the long-term.
http://www.economist.com/blogs/multi...na_has_changed
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I don't mind the best and the brightest, what I resent is any old run-of-the-mill labourer. Originally Posted by smartascarrots "If a terrorist organisation wanted to knock out the moral compass of Britain, all they'd have to do is to kill 100 celebrities at random. The entire country would have an instant nervous breakdown."
- 25-06-2012, 20:02 #106Belgian perverts and Austrian dungeon-keepers Originally Posted by BuckFelize
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Me neither. The trouble is, our new and 'improved' immigration system is designed to keep the overall numbers down rather than to separate the two. Originally Posted by Pyianno We need people who look to the stars, holding the nation and the world in their hearts but at the same time we need down-to-earth people who can do serious and trying work.
In a definite sense, a country's power and prestige isn't only a reflection of its economic power but also a reflection of its people's quality and morality. Moreover, I think the latter is actually more important in the long-term.
http://www.economist.com/blogs/multi...na_has_changed
- 25-06-2012, 20:44 #108
So, bleedin' obvious point #1: It boils down to productivity. Immigration is and has always been a national cross party agenda, to boost economic growth.That should please the liberals and the number crunchers munching on their Muesli.
Bleedin' obvious point #2: if the UK electorate wants to see drastic cuts in immigration, they should go to work, and contribute to the UK economic growth, before immigrants do it for them.
3: The UK Economy is now immigrant dependent, because the National Institute of Economic and Social Research, and Office for Budget Responsibility, says we can't afford to lose productive migrant workers or lose the momentum.
Implications for social stability, housing, and security, through liberal posturing are significant by their absence from the agenda.Never tell your problems to anyone...20% don't care and the other 80% are glad you have them
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Britain is the best option on the planet for anyone with little or no skills. Originally Posted by Pyianno
The ROTW gets the immigrants seeking better opportunities, we get the benefit migrants.Warning, this post contains some flash photography.
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