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Discuss Plod upset Tom Winsor is to become watchdog in Current Affairs, News and Analysis on The Army Rumour Service; Police anger as Winsor, the lawyer who has never been a police officer, is tipped to become watchdog - Telegraph Last night officers reacted with anger, claiming Mr Winsor was ill qualified for the £200,000–a–year ...
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    Plod upset Tom Winsor is to become watchdog

    Police anger as Winsor, the lawyer who has never been a police officer, is tipped to become watchdog - Telegraph

    Last night officers reacted with anger, claiming Mr Winsor was ill qualified for the £200,000–a–year position. The Police Federation chairman Paul McKeever said: "We warned the Home Secretary there would be riots, crime would rise and the 20 per cent cuts would have a detrimental effect on the policing front line and we were called scaremongers.
    Absolutely delighted and it is about time

    The usual scaremongering noise emanating from the police service. We all know what the police and security services do when they want more taxes - scare us. A tactic akin to what the Mafia and protection rackets do - "Pay us or bad things will happen."

    Time for the bloated police and security services to get the axe too

    A cheaper and more reliable guarantor of my/my family's safety is Mr. .45, not a copper a couple of blocks away. If houseowners can and did shoot burglars, there'd be a lot less of them infesting our streets than present day Britain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radiance View Post
    A cheaper and more reliable guarantor of my/my family's safety is Mr. .45, not a copper a couple of blocks away. If houseowners can and did shoot burglars, there'd be a lot less of them infesting our streets than present day Britain.

    'a couple of blocks away?

    Where is this Policing nirvana in the UK where the local plod is only round the corner?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sunnoficarus View Post
    'a couple of blocks away?

    Where is this Policing nirvana in the UK where the local plod is only round the corner?
    10 Downing St?

    In fairness, when Fred the Shred got his car windows tanned in, the response was so fast you'd have thought Lothian and Borders had a station inside Goodwin's house.
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    A excellent appointment. Someone who has the expectations of the public rather than someone ingrained in the police system.

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    By letting the public be armed is always a wise move, yes better protection for house owners who batter the crap out of burglars. But free range on weapons, i think not.

    I think it will be a good appointment, but only time will tell, the first 12 months will be telling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sunnoficarus View Post
    'a couple of blocks away?

    Where is this Policing nirvana in the UK where the local plod is only round the corner?
    Well spotted and you're right. I was exercising literary licence in a disingenious way.

    Police accused of fiddling response times - Telegraph


    Some officers in Croydon, who were recently hailed as the fastest in London, are logging their arrival at a scene when they are still several miles away, it was claimed.


    Rank and file leaders could not rule out it was not happening elsewhere in the country and warned it was a sign police are under pressure to hit targets.


    Met Chief Superintendent Adrian Roberts, a borough commander for Croydon, said earlier this month that his officers were attending 999 calls within eight minutes, on average, well within the 12 minute target set by the force and one of the fastest times in the country.


    But one anonymous officer claimed some staff are reporting they have arrived when they are several minutes away, sometimes as much as 15 or 20 minutes.


    Show me a crime that takes 15-20 minutes to finish and I will show you some criminals too dumb to not get caught.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radiance View Post
    Police anger as Winsor, the lawyer who has never been a police officer, is tipped to become watchdog - Telegraph



    Absolutely delighted and it is about time

    The usual scaremongering noise emanating from the police service. We all know what the police and security services do when they want more taxes - scare us. A tactic akin to what the Mafia and protection rackets do - "Pay us or bad things will happen."

    Time for the bloated police and security services to get the axe too

    A cheaper and more reliable guarantor of my/my family's safety is Mr. .45, not a copper a couple of blocks away. If houseowners can and did shoot burglars, there'd be a lot less of them infesting our streets than present day Britain.
    Is this what you hacks do when you are not tapping the phones of recently bereaved parents? I hope you get every chance to use your imaginary .45 in your strange reality, from which, I suspect, our planet is not even visible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radiance View Post
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    If houseowners can and did shoot burglars, there'd be a lot less of them infesting our streets than present day Britain.
    I don't care about how many burglars are on the streets, that is the best place for them. Burglars in my home is what I care about. Indeed, if home-owners regularly shot/killed burglars, more burglars on streets is damn-near guaranteed.


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    Most of the coppers I know are decent chaps and in it for the right reasons. Some are idle, some crap but that would seem to sum up most jobs and their workers. My mates shift had a minimum manning level of 20 at one time that has now dropped to 6 I think. Certainly got more faith in them for doing the 'right' thing than a lawyer / business man / politician. Might be idealistic claptrap but can't imagine many of those people saying 'I want to make the world a better place and serve the public', perhaps some politicians when they start off.

    Just going on what is here there does seem to be a conflict of interest, there should be a law forbidding 'public servants' to benfit from their post, anti corruption like.

    What would the outrage be from Arrsers if there was a similar post for HM Armed Forces and a civvy was put in that to fill it? Just a thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radiance View Post
    A cheaper and more reliable guarantor of my/my family's safety is Mr. .45, not a copper a couple of blocks away. If houseowners can and did shoot burglars, there'd be a lot less of them infesting our streets than present day Britain.
    Or there'd be a lot more armed burglars and as they're the ones who are awake, alert and expecting trouble while you're the one who's just woken up and stumbled onto the landing with a lazy lob on and pillows marks on your face I know who my money would be on in a shoot out.

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