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Discuss Can You spot what's wrong with this? in Current Affairs, News and Analysis on The Army Rumour Service; Originally Posted by Werewolf I'm bright enough to have no experience of prisons; I've never broken the law and I have no desire to work in a tax-payer funded hotel for worthless sub-humans. I could ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Werewolf View Post
    I'm bright enough to have no experience of prisons; I've never broken the law and I have no desire to work in a tax-payer funded hotel for worthless sub-humans.
    I could introduce you to some "sub humans" who are serving time for the most serious of offences, whilst having jobs under their belt that would make a never served plum like you cringe.


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    Quote Originally Posted by the_boy_syrup View Post
    Happens all the time
    There'sa womans prison near York and they are out and about all the time
    I think the Travel Lodge in town had three femae mureders working there at one point
    Convicted Killer Tracy Andrews was pictured strolling round town last year on day release.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hogspawn View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    I explained this to you up thread.

    Most murderers have never been offenders before, they never offend again after. Most people are killed by people they know and it's the result of domestic disputes, victims of mental or physical abuse, mental illness, drink dependancy, poverty and other factors.

    It's very rarely the work of some evil killer as portrayed in the Daily Mail.
    No I'm guessing the murderers who killed people as a result of domestic disputes probably won't re-offend unless you happen to piss them off; refuse to submit to their will; or you're #2 wife who thinks #1 wife asked for it...!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RearWords View Post
    No I'm guessing the murderers who killed people as a result of domestic disputes probably won't re-offend unless you happen to piss them off; refuse to submit to their will; or you're #2 wife who thinks #1 wife asked for it...!
    Or you are wife number one who stabbed abusive husband number one.

    Use you brain and don't try to be emotive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    If you bothered to check the prisons description you would see it's where they send lifers at the end of the term in preperation for sending them back into the world.

    Murderers believe it or not have some of the lowest re-offending rates as murder is most usually a spur of the moment thing.

    Some idots run off when they are going to be released soon anyway.
    All of those points are correct. However, open prisons are also being used to absorb the overspill from secure prisons that are full. This means that unsuitable, open prisons are being used to house dangerous criminals who should be in more secure establishments.

    There have been hundreds of escapes from Hollesley Bay in recent years. IIRC it was also the prison where there was a riot after Prison Officers tried to stop lags nipping out to a nearby off licence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Werewolf View Post
    I'm sure that's a great comfort to their victims families.

    In any case, it clearly doesn't apply in this instance, since plod have warned that he is a potential danger and not to be approached.

    I'm not in favor of the death penalty for every murderer, since mistakes can and have been made. But if your are convicted of murder, then from that point on your life should effectively be over: you should be locked in a cell 24/7. No luxuries of any kind - TV, books etc - just the bare essentials for survival. No second chances at life, because your victim certainly won't get one.

    Anything less is moral cowardice.
    So prisons like this then:



    That's what it should be like for the people who deserve it. Another thing that has always seemed strange to me is people are getting released after a life sentence. Shouldn't a life sentence be, well, life?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ancient_Mariner View Post
    All of those points are correct. However, open prisons are also being used to absorb the overspill from secure prisons that are full. This means that unsuitable, open prisons are being used to house dangerous criminals who should be in more secure establishments.

    There have been hundreds of escapes from Hollesley Bay in recent years. IIRC it was also the prison where there was a riot after Prison Officers tried to stop lags nipping out to a nearby off licence.
    I'm sure you're aware of prisoners categories?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jarrod248 View Post
    You've no idea about criminals and rehabilitation.
    Think about your posts on sensible matters.
    As of last year: 90% of criminals sentenced in England and Wales had offended before. Of those, almost a third had committed 15 or more crimes. Re-offending rates were highest among those who had previously been found guilty of serious and/or violent offences.

    You're absolutely right, Jarrod; I should leave it to the experts. They are clearly doing a magnificent job of both rehabilitating criminals and protecting the public. Bravo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Werewolf View Post
    As of last year: 90% of criminals sentenced in England and Wales had offended before. Of those, almost a third had committed 15 or more crimes. Re-offending rates were highest among those who had previously been found guilty of serious and/or violent offences.

    You're absolutely right, Jarrod; I should leave it to the experts. They are clearly doing a magnificent job of both rehabilitating criminals and protecting the public. Bravo.
    Yawn, most re-offenders will be drug addicts because opiates are so safe but strangely illegal.
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