- 02-06-2012, 20:06 #1
Big empty ocean coming to you soon
US to move the majority of its naval fleet to Asia - Telegraph
However, what impact if any will this have on the orientation of UK defence spending?
Russia is resurgent at the moment with the proviso that Oil prices remain high to fund their defence infrastructure.
Oil drops below $100 on global growth fears - Telegraph
With a loss of income, what outcomes might they envisage?
In a similar vein, Venezuela will be impacted as well as Iran and other unstable Mid East countries. Britain will also suffer from lower revenues.
As the US withdraws - justifiably in my opinion - how will the RN take up the slack...? Will Europe even be bothered?
Final question. Army is going to get kicked big time in 2015, will spending re-focus even more on the grey funnel line? (Can her Maj look forward to a better fleet review in the future...)
- 02-06-2012, 22:52 #2
Lots to think about there - I think the RN may suddenly find itself assuming a lot higher priority in funding if the UK wishes to remain a serious player in the eyes of the US.
As ever, blog piece on this issue at the link - Thin Pinstriped Line: Repositioning the Legions - the USN in 2020Looking for more defence writing? Why not try some other defence related sites.
www.thinpinstripedline.blogspot.co.uk - an alternative, more positive, take on UK defence matters
http://thinpinstripedline.blogspot.c...capabiliy.html - The NAO report into the CVF project and why things look frankly terrifying for the RN in future...
- 03-06-2012, 05:57 #3
With any luck a draw down of USN in the Atlantic should shame us into enlarging our own footprint in the area. I believe the RN picked up the slack in the Atlantic during parts of the Cold War so that Uncle Sam could concentrate on his troubles in SE Asia. We now need to get back to the level where we can effectively do the same again, albeit for the long term this time.
This announcement seems to confirm that the US and China are heading towards a Pacific themed cold war, so with that in mind, isn't it high time the UK ended its "5 power defence agreement" over Singapore? We need to ensure we don't get dragged into this one. Unlike others, we just about managed to extract ourselves from the Far East in a dignified manner, so let's look after number one for a change and ensure good business sense takes priority over any outdated notions of loyalty."The browning is jammed. I am saying 'driver advance' on the "A" set and the driver, who can't hear me, is reversing. And as I look over the top of the turret and see twelve enemy tanks fifty yards away, someone hands me a cheese sandwich.".......British Tankie, N. Africa, WW2.
“Gentlemen, in spite of your excellent training and orders, do not be daunted if chaos reigns. It undoubtedly will.”.......Brigadier Hill, 6th Airborne Div.
- 03-06-2012, 08:34 #4
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The Fremantle Chamber of Commerce is delighted at the idea of more USN ship visits-- and so are all the brothels.
All the same, if we're moving into a world where a computer hacker in China can disable a power station in Birmingham with one key stroke, what's the point of having a Navy?The Pilbara Regt -- free ranging fowl fighters
- 03-06-2012, 08:42 #5
All we need is a govt. that would rather invest in defence than in tax-breaks for donors, and free houses for scrotes.
I might learn Russian.
- 03-06-2012, 10:27 #6
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Mmmm Sounds a bit ominous. The reason why the US fleet was at Pearl Harbour is beacause they had been forward based from the US West coastbecause of the rising Japaneese threat.
Good for the US I say, let the Europeans look after their own back yard. And shame on us for not doing so.
Head hanging in shame.
- 03-06-2012, 10:34 #7
- 03-06-2012, 10:47 #8
They can run me back in two weeks.
Sent from my iPhone using ARRSE"Crazy like wild wolves threatened by fire, send them all to the bottom of the sea."
- 03-06-2012, 11:10 #9
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Maybe the USA is getting ready to tap into their own vast oil resources and are merely redeploying their Navy to protect their shipping routes to China when they start selling it all to the wee yellow men, they've given them everything else.
Taking tongue out of cheek, much has been said about the US Naval repositioning though it's not as if they're leaving a void in the Atlantic/Med/Indian Ocean - the 40% of their fleet remaining in that area is still a match for any potential aggressors - including the Russians.Hey surr, thae bastards urr firin ball!
- 03-06-2012, 11:22 #10
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