- 01-06-2012, 23:35 #51
It's the ritual stuff that bothers me; the 3 degree craft and all the 'apron wearing' (cliche, I know).
Why can't the Freemasons - and a lot have outed themselves here - just admit that it's a good night out, with not enough birds, but some of the chaps at the bar are up for a good natter over a pint?
In which case, why not just join a Working Man's Club Affiliated? Or the Special Forces Club?
Why do you need to be 'initiated' in order to go for a drink with some friends?
- 01-06-2012, 23:37 #52
However like all urban myths this had a basic in some truth . A chap in 1912 was tried and convicted for murder ( which he probably did,nt do in the end ) once sentence was passed he was asked if he had owt to say . well for an hour he destroyed the case against him ending up with " by the great architect of the universe i am innocent " The judge a fellow mason still had him hanged .
it was at this time a photographer with a special camera built into a hat took photos of the court case for the daily morrow , some 8/10 years later this was heavily quoted in a report which eventually ended up with the banning of camera in court hence the court artist was back in business . hi fank yew .A sapper with an idea is like a monkey with a hand grenade
- 01-06-2012, 23:39 #53"If a terrorist organisation wanted to knock out the moral compass of Britain, all they'd have to do is to kill 100 celebrities at random. The entire country would have an instant nervous breakdown."
- 01-06-2012, 23:48 #54
How anyone could read anything sinister into their peculiar past time is beyond me. If it cheers people up, then hats off. But to start bigging it up as some kind of local government illuminati is a bit sad.
- 01-06-2012, 23:54 #55"If a terrorist organisation wanted to knock out the moral compass of Britain, all they'd have to do is to kill 100 celebrities at random. The entire country would have an instant nervous breakdown."
- 01-06-2012, 23:59 #56
It's all the agreeable trivia you expect on a night out.
Why the Masons can't just do the same, without poncing about with ritual, is beyond my tiny brain.
- 02-06-2012, 00:03 #57
the aprons and ritual is historic . Freemasonry started in 1716 when there were over 2,000 clubs and societies in London alone . So the ritual is based on three one act morality plays if you like . Charity , education and peace with your maker come the final day . It has an almost 300 year tradition behind it . Of course you don't have to be initiated to go for a drink if you want other outlets London clubs like the reform , RAC etc will fit the bill nicely and they have . Or failing that spent time in your local pub putting the world to rights. that's good to .
Freemasonry is a hobby and as such it aint for every one .A sapper with an idea is like a monkey with a hand grenade
- 02-06-2012, 00:20 #58
The Reform is shite, btw. Try the Travellers, but it's not everyone's brew.
- 02-06-2012, 00:24 #59
nicer class of person use the reform, none of this taking your wellies off before going into the toilets stuff.
not biting anymore . grinA sapper with an idea is like a monkey with a hand grenade
- 02-06-2012, 00:28 #60