- 26-05-2012, 14:40 #11
Is Theresa May under too much pressure?
As I called her a saggy old witch, that would have to be a no. Maybe after a few 'Nelsons ...'
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- 26-05-2012, 14:45 #12
"I'd rather be a tired old Has been, than a tired old Never Has Been!!"
- Join Date
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- 26-05-2012, 15:05 #13
Very disturbing reports from Greece in the last few weeks describe malnourished children being abandoned by parents who can't feed them and pharmacies running out of drugs. It looks very like the Greeks are about to elect a government that will raise two fingers to "austerity" which means that the bailout cash from the EU and IMF will dry up.
Greece is going to go bankrupt and, within a few months, they won't be able to pay public sector salaries or welfare benefits. Vast numbers of Greeks are about to see their income drop to zero in the near future.
We're about to see large movements of refugees in Western Europe for the first time since the Second World War. It will occur to many of them that RyanAir will fly them from Greece to Stansted for the price of a bottle of ouzo. If they have children with them, they will be entitled to a free house on arrival and unlimited legal aid to challenge anybody who says no to them.
Twelve weeks after arrival in the UK, they will be entitled to full access to the most generous welfare system in the world. Rather better than living, destitute, on the streets of Athens after a Greek bank reposesses your house.
Regarding the "emergency provisions", I couldn't agree more with the picture of a flying pig. We can't even scrutinise the passports of those arriving in the UK at the moment. How are we going to stop tens or hundreds of thousands of Greek refugees?
It will take years, perhaps decades, for all of the deportation orders to be appealed all the way to the Euro Court. I doubt that the Lib Dems will allow the Tories to introduce primary legislation to permit quick deportations or to ignore decrees from ECHR.
Spain, Portugal, Italy, Ireland and perhaps even France are likely to follow Greece into the Euro U bend and the entire populations of those countries are legally entitled to unlimited welfare benefits from the British government.
We are stuffed. Convert your savings into Swiss Francs and emigrate now.ArRSe is the Hotel California - You can log-out any time you like, but you can never leave!
- 26-05-2012, 15:13 #14
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- May 2010
The key figures are 960000 more came in 2011, highest figure for 15 years. 90% more Greeks & 52% more Spaniards compared to 2010. The other phenomenon is an increase of 43% in the numbers from the new eu states who joined in 2004 Rumania, Bulgaria etc. now that the initial restrictions they had in place have expired.
But there again, you`ve got to laugh at one German master plan going seriously wrong. Serves them right.
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- 26-05-2012, 16:21 #15
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- Jan 2010
The ECJ is about interpreting the EU's laws. Emergency provisions are already written into those laws, so we'd be acting within the EU's law - a country exiting the euro is an emergency by anyone's definition. If you don't let them into the country, they can neither claim benefits, nor legal aid. If a lawyer tries to act on their behalf, don't fund the case out of the public purse and boot it into the long grass. In any event, I don't think we'll be the only country enacting 'emergency provisions'.
Fine airlines, ferry companies and the railways heavily for bringing customers to the UK without a valid visa and job. £20,000 pounds each instance will make them take care. And put more people on border control - their salary is going to be less than the potential payout in benefits.
I think we're heading for major economic turmoil, mass movements of populations trying to flee de facto failed states like Greece, and Europe wide hardship. At that point the UK needs to stop acting like a good European and start putting the needs of the UK's citizens first.
- 26-05-2012, 16:47 #16
Camoron will do nothing except huff and puff.Warning, this post contains some flash photography.
- 26-05-2012, 16:55 #17Warning, this post contains some flash photography.
- 26-05-2012, 16:56 #18They shall mount up with wings as eagles.
- 26-05-2012, 17:16 #19
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- In front of the fire, wearing slippers with a brew at hand.
The main issue for the UK is not so much RyanAir flying in the odd plane will Bubbles on board, that is fairly easily controlled and will not amount to large numbers. The main issue will be Germany & France pushing people through their countries and along the channel tunnel. If the Boxheads/Frogs want to empty their own countries they will lay on trains to move the immigrants through."Patience is counting down without blasting off."
- 26-05-2012, 17:46 #20
The Eur is not going to collapse. Germany , France and the US will not let it collapse. The most likely outcome is that the economies with the greatest export potential in Europe (Germany France USA) will allow the price to fall so that they can secure international export deals (contributed to by the member states) then they will allow the Eur to rally to its comfort Zone of 1.48. In the meantime Germany will cream off the profits secured against Eur Bonds , paid for by the Greeks, Spanish, Portugese Italians, then lend the money back to those countries in the form of sovreign debt. This in turn could be written off if Germany has fiscal control of all the Eurozone states, something which it has been after since the days of Bismark.You see! This is why birds and CID don't mix.
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