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Originally Posted by EX_STAB

The number of times I've tried to explain that a Public sector employee's tax doesn't actually add anything new to Government coffers because that's where it came from after it was taken from the private sector..... Most flatly refuse to believe it.

From what University or polytechnic did you get your degree in Simple maths? You do realise that you are incorrect, dont you?

It is odd that Ed Balls is a labour politician; he has a distinctly ultra-right-wing look about him.

Fox and horses. It would help your argument if you actually presented it.

Originally Posted by EX_STAB

The number of times I've tried to explain that a Public sector employee's tax doesn't actually add anything new to Government coffers because that's where it came from after it was taken from the private sector..... Most flatly refuse to believe it.

Do you realise that not ALL Public sector workers are paid from the Government coffers?

Please list the public sector workers you are referring to?

Everybody conveniently forgets that we are currently in the second part of a double dip recession and this government has been in power for two years. Labour has always said that it would reduce spending drastically to balance the books. In that sense, they are very close to what this coalition government says. The method Labour would use is dramatically different though. They would space the cuts over a much wider period of time to lessen the painful effects. That's the difference.

So far just to name a few, this government has attacked and cut my pension, made me work for a further year of my life, penalised university applicants by massively increasing their debt, announced plans to cut money from the disabled and the elderly, done absolutely nothing to encourage business and enterprise to take on workers and yet, the rich are quite a lot richer due to their substantial tax cut.

Cameron is fooling no one by jumping up and down about the euro either at the moment. He and his policies are to blame for the double dip. The economy needs to expand to provide jobs so that people who sit on their arses actually can be put to work. This government has too many millionaires in it who have never held down an honest job and are just looking after their own.

Double dip recession is a meaningless word from the politicians lexicon of meaningless crap.

I happened to watch the '10 O'Clock' ITV News last night - first time for a long time, and I, too, saw the interview with the Economist who succinctly summed up the size of our economy, size of public debt and, frankly, the 'draining a lake with a thimble' efforst by the Government to resolve the situation. The difference between the parties - in terms of tackling the deficit - is the size of the thimble.

A least we haven't had a run on a Bank for a few years...yet.

The old saying is true "people get the government they deserve". My dad, god bless him, was a working class, trade unionist steelworker - but even he used to say to me " The working man should never have been given the vote, because he doesn't know what to do with it"
And it's true what previous posters have said - a large proportion of our illiterate, poorly educated, brainwashed population have no understanding of the political system, basic economics or what they're actually voting for. I'm sick of meeting people who say "I'm Labour" or "I'm Tory", but when you ask them WHY they voted that way they say "Well I always have" or "My dad did" My vote varies depending on the issues of the day and the type of election/candidate eg local council, Welsh Assembly, General Election, European Parliament. That involves looking at the issues and candidates and weighing up choices, which unfortunately for a large proportion of our electorate, just gives them a headache. even though I accept that apart from more extreme parties, there is not much to choose between the main parties these days.