- 17-05-2012, 18:12 #11
- 17-05-2012, 23:37 #12
I'm guessing we're scraping the bottom of the EU coffers and Turkey's membership and dowry will add to the bottomless pit of EU expenditure. Greece is far to busy surviving to dissent and even if they do raise their now insignificant voice...who's gonna listen.There is a God and he looked down on the Earth and said "Let there be Liberal Democrats in the Government" and it came to pass that the disciple Dave brought Nick back from the wilderness and there was much partying.
- 18-05-2012, 01:23 #13"The fusion (of economic functions) would compel nations to fuse their sovereignty into that of a single European State."
Jean Omer Marie Gabriel Monnet - April 1952
"It is a serious discussion, but you posted 5 lines of bleeding heart kumbaya one worlder bollaux."
- 18-05-2012, 11:58 #14
I had an interesting perspective from a Turkish guy last week - he said something to the effect of, "The French will never let us in because our agricultural products are so much cheaper - a tomato costs 3 pence [centimes/cents] in Turkey". Food for thought!Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
- 18-05-2012, 12:06 #15
In the last 8 years, Turkey's national debt has gone down from 104% of GDP to 45%. I think they'd be the stupid ones for joining the EU.I can say the name of that railway station in Wales, as well.
- 18-05-2012, 12:26 #16
If Turkey were let in even to the limited free-trade zone without being members (a-la Switzerland) then there would still be free movement of people as this is a condition of the free-trade perks even if you're not a full member.
What on earth is Cameron thinking? Posing domestically as anti-EU but at the same time talking about expanding it letting every lunatic from Turkey come and go with no possible border controls. Demented."If a terrorist organisation wanted to knock out the moral compass of Britain, all they'd have to do is to kill 100 celebrities at random. The entire country would have an instant nervous breakdown."
- 18-05-2012, 12:42 #17
Can we do swapsies, Greece for Turkey?
The falafels better, they are a geo political asset and useful in a ruck, their economy is thriving, they work harder than the clock watching Germans and unlike the busted Bubbles they can actually afford to buy herds of Leopard IIs so our new overlords get their spa time and don't get all grumpy.
Actually the way things are going in six months time swapping France and its busted banks for Turkey may be looking pretty sweet.That's the most foul, cruel, and bad-tempered rodent you ever set eyes on!
- 18-05-2012, 12:42 #18Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
- 18-05-2012, 16:55 #19
Turkey allowed into Europe, never happen, the germans will never live with that.
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- 18-05-2012, 17:29 #20
I saw an advert for The Spectator on the train the other day, it read:-
"Most Germans own a holiday property"
"It's called Greece"Silence may be golden, but duct tape is more effective, and that comes in silver......
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