- 17-05-2012, 00:52 #61
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When Margaret Thatcher came to power, she had Keith Joseph as an advisor. He reportedly showed her a complex flowchart which demonstrated how problems in one sector of the UK were related to problems in another sector. Thatcher then took a holistic approach to UK PLC and took a series of actions designed to act on the whole set of interconnected problems. There will always be debate about the merits and success of those actions, but that's the last time I can recall a UK government employing joined up, long term thinking.
All governments since then have rushed about with Initiative A or Initiative B without showing how they fit into a coherent, long term plan for restoring the UK's fortunes. The current coalition is no exception. My joined up thinking would run on the lines of:
1) We cannot have the public services we desire without growing the economy to pay for them
2) In order to grow the economy we must:
-- Have a plan to make our industries and services competitive world wide
-- Grow our exports and reduce our imports
-- Improve our educational systems so they deliver a skilled workforce
-- Improve our business environment so that business operates in an environment that rewards good governance and entrepreneurship.
-- Improve our banking sector so that excessive risk taking is eliminated
-- Develop the infrastructure to support that business environment
3) Set out 5, 10 and 20 year plans for UK PLC with clear benchmarks with which to measure progress.
4) Communicate those plans to the UK population without spin and in such a manner that you achieve a broad consensus for those plans.
All political parties have become too obsessed with spin and short term political advantage and too little concerned with managing the economy over long time periods.
- 17-05-2012, 00:56 #62Night time is really the best time to work. All the ideas are there to be yours because everyone else is asleep. ~Catherine O'Hara
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- 17-05-2012, 06:08 #63
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- Nov 2006
- Listening to Journey of the Sorcerer and staring at the sky hopefully, waiting for the Vogons.
- 17-05-2012, 08:18 #64
- 17-05-2012, 08:51 #65
The NI system was, and has been for decades, a gloriously legal Ponzi pyramid scheme.
There was never any investment function. The taxpayer of the day simply paid the benefits of the claimants of the day. Yes, his contributions were recorded, on the nebulous hope that when they came to retire that there would be enough taxpayers to fund them.
Given the demographic bulge, (which was visible over the horizon at least twenty years ago) there is going to be a shedload of claimants all waving their pension books come 2030, and a serious shortage of current taxpayers to scalp.
You may be confused with the iussue of 'Unallocated' NI. This is NOT cash. That's all gone. What it is, is NI paid in the UK by foreigners, people with no NI number, or garbled payroll data. The NICs should go on someones account to contribute towards those pensions they may or may not eventually receive. It's just a suspense account. Until the taxpayer comes forward to claim them, they just sit there. The owner still has the right to them, but they aren't doing anything.
As the Government Actuaries say:
"The balance in the Fund at 31 March 2013 is estimated at £32.3 billion, or 37% of the
estimated benefit payments (including redundancy payments) of £86.7 billion in the
The rest is made up of Income Tax and other receipts.I am not the official representative of the Digital Outreach Team from the House of Commons; we are politically impractical and cannot comment on government policy or give a political opinion.-'cos they haven't made up their minds yet.
- 17-05-2012, 09:14 #66
- 17-05-2012, 09:53 #67
The opted-out NICs were a sort of half way house. There's the mandatory 'basic pension' and something that's called the 'second pension' (what used to be called SERPS-State Earnings Related Pension Scheme). The 'basic' element qualifed you for unemployment benefit etc. The rest was proportionate to your earnings up to a ceiling.
If your employer (Like the Government, NHS , HM Forces or many big commercial firms) had its own pension scheme, you could be 'opted out' and pay the SERPS element into that. I beleive that now you can 'contract yourself' out in some circumstances by private arrangement.
Now, with the big companies and Government retreating from running their own pensions schemes, its up to the employee to take out any additional private pensions, or the State Pension scheme will be left to pick up the slack.
(With the proviso that I'm a few years out of the HMRC envelope-it's become insanely more complicated since I left- Thanks, Gordon.)
http://www.pensionsadvisoryservice.o...ut-of-serpss2pI am not the official representative of the Digital Outreach Team from the House of Commons; we are politically impractical and cannot comment on government policy or give a political opinion.-'cos they haven't made up their minds yet.
- 17-05-2012, 11:01 #68
o Property seizure by Harry The Bastard's humaine services PLC to pay for your selfishly vital loved
one's very expensive care until it becomes fully your responsibility, lets see at 20K a month
that's in 17 months time
o Full legal disclaimer, 20K to HTBhs PLC, full bed to grave services provided
o Full legal disclaimer, quick tutorial on the pillow as offensive weapon from HTBhs PLC,
that'll be a tenner, Mastarcard is fine
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- 17-05-2012, 16:34 #69
- 17-05-2012, 21:39 #70
Hereís an idea, how about taking the personal assets of the investment bankers, david cameron's mates, who put us in the shit in the first place, and making the banks that we own, lend out some of the billions of our taxpayers money they were given in the first place, and if not letís do what the Romans did and kill every 10th banker until they do so, sounds like a winner to me!
old age or immobility? what about mental illness like that poor ex mp margaret moran, oh dear my heart bleeds, those poor Mps and bankers having to struggle while those worthless people with terminal cancer and no limbs are bleeding our benefits system dry, I dont know how they sleep at nights.