ARmy Rumour SErvice

**BiscuitsAB** · 15-05-2012, 01:52

Originally Posted by bokkatankie

Biscuits, I will give you my 50% quite happily not sure what your affliction is but as per my post earlier I work because I can and it is the right thing to do.

My reason for War Pension will not get better and it will not grow back (however, stem cell research may, in the future enable it to do so, never say never).

But arguing for every tom dick and harry to get benefits just because they can and seeing every attempt to stem the flow of unending claims as Tory evil is rather silly. We have developed a claim, benefit, entitlement culture that will make it ever more difficult to look after those in genuine need. The wrong flow has to stop. The fact that we have allowed it is a national disgrace, those who benefit wrongly, just because they can, are scum.

Every penny that goes to someone who does not deserve it is lost to those who do now and may in the future.

If you continue to believe that taxing the money makers is all that a government needs to do you need to do a bit of soul searching. If you put them out of business, if they say what is the point of making money there will be no pot to piss in let alone draw benefits from. Socialist utopia's are that; I pipe dream, we cannot exist without income and neither can a government.

They may spend it unwisely, for example, 7 million in the public sector, doing what, producing what, enabling what (and paying what tax)? Or they may choose to ensure that they have tax income into the future, to enable those who need benefits to get them.

Mate you seem to be confusing me with somebody left of centre! I'm not. I'm just pissed of at the thought of some fucktard with a clip board telling me that my completely fucked feet ankles knees and hips no longer qualify me for something despite me holding a piece of paper stating I have been awarded DLA for life.

I've looked at almost every possible treatment over the last 2 decades and short off having my feet off there's fuck all that works to kill the pain and yet still allow me to keep earning, anything that knocks the pain back knocks me on my arrse and leave me completely of my tits. My GP said over 10 years ago that I should give up work and go on state benefits. I politely invited him to do it first. I, like you and many others deal with our issues with a mix of humour and determination to just crack on and get shit done. I'm sure there are plenty who are getting DLA higher rate that shouldn't be such as Alcoholics and fat bastards with stress and I really don't give a damm if the DWP bring it on I'll fight to keep hold of it because I've not had a pain free day in nearly 26years and in my thought process the DLA is a small recompense for 26 years of restrictions placed on my life. Also because I'm a capitalist bastard I consider it a tax rebate and I paid enough of that in the last couple of years.

My bold, your post. Fuck that I want lower taxes. And I've run businesses in the UK the last one me and the mrs ran had 20 people in it, we sacked it because we were working ourselves into the ground to pay staff wages,paye,NI and then tax on anything we took out for ourselves. I keep more, work less and am a hell of a lot less stressed now that I'm no longer employing people because the previous government made if a shagging nightmare to do so. With regards my DLA I use it to get a spaz chariot through motability and I'm chuffed to fuck I've been able to do so for the last six years 2007-2009 we're bastard years for me for some reason my condition got a great deal worse over a short period of time and I was only managing to work about 12 hours a week having the spaz mobile was a god send then. Now. well, the tribunal fucked the SPVA off and awarded me 40% and I've still got my spaz mobile and War Pension. If I lose the DLA it won't be through the lack of a fight, but if I do then as I said earlier I'll soldier on and buy a car.

Oh and just to clarify. The Benefit budget is totally out of control and should be cut, but I vote an exemption for all ex-SP who were injured/disabled. And I want free beers and hookers for all Ex-SP who can quote their service number backwards,forwards and inside out without hesitation (that'll thin the walts out)

**180WPRE** · 15-05-2012, 02:19

Disgusting and maybe all the money spent on illegal immigrants should go where it belongs looking after the British Servicemen and Women wounded. Given bankers huge payouts surely their morals might think of donating half to British Servicemen and Women's Charities ,

God bless them all.

**eodmatt** · 15-05-2012, 04:47

My (very soon to be ex) HiD managed to convince the doctors about ten years ago that, due to having MS, she couldn't walk more than ten metres unaided. This simple fraud unlocked a cornucopia of wealth for her. Well maybe not a cornucopia, but she is certainly doing well out of it.

Now, she has got MS and she's had it for around 20 years. In March she came with me on two 3 kilometre walks and her only problem was the occasional momentary difficulty with balance - however she says she doesn't need a walking stick. But giving her a bundle of state money that she isn't entitled to hasn't done her any favours.

She has completely lost the will to work. She sleeps until 1100 or 1200 hrs every day. She considers that her state benefits are hers by right and that anyone who doesn't try to claim something is a fool. She spends about 200 quid a month on marijuana which she says doesn't help with her MS and never has but she is bored and likes smoking puff.

She would have a much better quality of life if she had some responsibility for herself, but having full benefits means that she has no need to bother.

I wonder how many more there are like her.

**Tremaine** · 15-05-2012, 07:27

Made the same mistake, once. Some of the lovely ladies are still using the old Incap' ruse, or on Income Support. The working age kids will follow suit , drop a couple of kids before they're 18 yrs old, and live in a nice gaff with some mug they picked up, all thanks to the benefits entitlements. These particular diamonds sleep half the day, slurp coffee with their mates when they get up, and have dodgy hygiene skills.

**eodmatt** · 15-05-2012, 07:56

Originally Posted by Tremaine

Made the same mistake, once. Some of the lovely ladies are still using the old Incap' ruse, or on Income Support. The working age kids will follow suit , drop a couple of kids before they're 18 yrs old, and live in a nice gaff with some mug they picked up, all thanks to the benefits entitlements. These particular diamonds sleep half the day, slurp coffee with their mates when they get up, and have dodgy hygiene skills.

You just reminded me, she doesn't wash for days on end and lives in a filthy dressing gown. I have spoken to her doctor about her on numerous occasions but (apart from saying her cant discuss her condition with me) he merely says that she is "eccentric".

**bokkatankie** · 15-05-2012, 08:11

Originally Posted by BiscuitsAB

Mate you seem to be confusing me with somebody left of centre!

Biscuits, sorry my bad, only first bit applied directly to you rest was more a general dig at the one who believe that nothing can ever be changed and if anything is ever changed then it is just evil politicians stealing money from the disabled.

But in answer to your point about taxes, how can we have lower taxes when we have a Welfare State and an NHS that suck up ever more funds without improving and that seemingly cannot be reformed?

**bokkatankie** · 15-05-2012, 08:13

Originally Posted by FORMER_FYRDMAN

Bokka:

Forget medals and post count, it's the ability to spot the monumentally witless, crass, mentally incontinent, intellectually inappropriate, platitudinous, vapid, hapless, attention-seeking and thread-derailing haverings of Chubb which marks out the true Arrse vet. For years I used to wonder how the likes of Flashy did it on the first post. Today, as soon as I read the first effusion of this virtual drain, I instinctively knew and understood. Don't try to reason with it, that way madness lies. 'Fuck off Chubb' is truly the only appropriate response and, if the MODS try to grip you, point out that you are only saying what they think and claim self-defence - no court in the land would convict you.

Thank you for those sage words of advice, I am a sucker for chubb!

**jarrod248** · 15-05-2012, 08:55

Originally Posted by bokkatankie

Biscuits, sorry my bad, only first bit applied directly to you rest was more a general dig at the one who believe that nothing can ever be changed and if anything is ever changed then it is just evil politicians stealing money from the disabled.

But in answer to your point about taxes, how can we have lower taxes when we have a Welfare State and an NHS that suck up ever more funds without improving and that seemingly cannot be reformed?

Well let us hope GP commissioning can save money and be more effective.

**bokkatankie** · 15-05-2012, 08:57

Originally Posted by jarrod248

Well let us hope GP commissioning can save money and be more effective.

Let us hope that it will be given a fair chance to succeed and not be blocked by intransigence and the "no surrender" approach that seems to develop every time any type of change is proposed.

**BiscuitsAB** · 15-05-2012, 11:10

Originally Posted by bokkatankie

Biscuits, sorry my bad, only first bit applied directly to you rest was more a general dig at the one who believe that nothing can ever be changed and if anything is ever changed then it is just evil politicians stealing money from the disabled.

But in answer to your point about taxes, how can we have lower taxes when we have a Welfare State and an NHS that suck up ever more funds without improving and that seemingly cannot be reformed?

We can't and we won't the benefits culture is too entrenched and the buggers who excel at bleeding it dry will only vote for the party that promises to keep it. In order for political party to feel they have a mandate to change it they will need to galvanise the rest of us to get off our arrses next general election. Which of course won't happen because most of us have not a good word to say about any politician of any flavour. Its a big old circle mate.

As for the NHS well less management and more clinicians is whats needed, but again it will be a difficult call. As Jarrod sarcastically pointed out GP commissioning isn't going to work mainly because of the complexity being brought in by various levels of management and the fact that GP's are now looking at it and going Nah, to much hassle not enough reward.