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Originally Posted by FORMER_FYRDMAN

I quibbled with your use of 'never' and I still do. The Army has a remarkable facility to make valuable citizens from troublesome adolescents, this skillset should not be overlooked when considering how soldiers (and former) soldiers should be used.

I agree we can take 'a' bad lad and make a decent person out of him if he's willing to buckle down to the life. We can't do it with every single person turning 18 in a given year though and we shouldn't be asked to. Especially not when it's not possible these days to force anyone to do anything as the 1950s Army could (I assume).

I don't have a problem with former soldiers being used to help improve the country (Teachers for Troops as an example) if it helps. I don't see how it will without changes in the system that underpins the failings but I'm happy to see it given a go.

Originally Posted by chocolate_frog

22 is also a good Signal Regiment.

How many 22s are there? Are any particularly special?

The Search & Rescue guys had their own TV series, is that special enough?

Originally Posted by Sentinel

I think you show a staggering ignorance of the problems we are currently in. This isn't just a normal recession this is turning into a depression with millions of people unemployed. It's not just young people who are unemployed either - the middle classes have been hit really hard by what's going on out there. Former company directors with years of experience are signing on, all of them desperate for work. I know someone who runs their own business and when they advertised for a new post - a pretty menial one at the lowest grade - he interviewed people who could quite easily have done his job!

Also, it's not just a question of finding someone a job, it is finding the right job. Not everyone can work on a production line, or do shift work. Just as not everyone can be in infantry but may excel in a support trade. Rather tarring everyone with the same brush, take your head out your arrse and look at the problems around you, because if you do, you might just find that a large number of ex-forces who have apparently been instilled with this ever so wonderful work ethic, are also signing on.

You've sold me mate, the current system is indeed the method we should continue to use....

Pleb.

If we are heading in to depression then a new scheme is more than required.

A scheme perhaps were the financial status of those working is NOT taken in to account. Just a simple transaction of 1hrs fair work for 1 hours fair pay. I didn't suggest, nor do I envisage, such a scheme to include places for company directors; they can heft a shovel with the rest.

As long as they are not sat around being idle that will do for me. As they work they can also earn 'training points' so these company directors can retrade to plumbers. As mentioned their finances will not be taken in to account, so whilst working they can use their savings to re-train or pay off their mortgage, rather than deplete them in living expenses until they fall below the thresholds to start receiving aid.

Cheshire had a 22 Regt as well. 'Spose they would like us to believe that they had another 21 of them.

Typical Alderley Edge/Wayne Rooney/Keep up with the Joneses stuff from the Cheshire wankers.

Originally Posted by LancePrivateJones

Cheshire had a 22 Regt as well. 'Spose they would like us to believe that they had another 21 of them.

Typical Alderley Edge/Wayne Rooney/Keep up with the Joneses stuff from the Cheshire wankers.

Indeed.

So dug in were they over old titles they chose to continue with the name 22nd (Cheshire) Regiment after they were told to become the Cheshire Regiment (merging with local Militia and Volunteer units). They rather fancied staying styled as the 22nd (Cheshire) Regiment of Foot.

That was in 1881, and we wonder why we have problems with high blood pressure now, what with mergeers, renamings and disbandments.

Shouldn't this be on the Scotland v Tories thread?

Originally Posted by Fatcivvy

I think that he has correctly identified the problem but he has come up with completely the wrong solution.

At the moment you have career politicians running the country who do not have a clue as to what it's like out in the real world, never mind what it's like being in the military.

My solution is to not let anybody stand for parliament until they have done at least 20 years proper work.

FC

I can't agree with Fatcivvy more. At least they would for a while inhabit the real world.

Originally Posted by MuddyOldEngineer

Not sure if the armed forces should be populated by large numbers of people who don't want to be there, but there should be a form of national service i.e. work in hospitals, park services, care homes etc. In short , a 6 month / 1 year stint spent putting something back into the system. Any thoughts ?

Plenty Mate,
When you see the legions of yobs walking the streets of our towns, doing absolutely nothing till it's time to pick up the benefit. I wonder why this idea hasn't been actioned before. Seems to me there's to many namby pamby's afraid of the backlash that might come their way from the crowd of do-gooders that inhabit the social services. Get the buggers off their arses and into doing something they can stand back and say "I've done a bit of good"

Anyone here visited Longmoor Camp lately??