- 15-05-2012, 10:06 #441
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- 15-05-2012, 10:23 #443E-Tool counselling;
When E-Mailing isn't enough.
(Curtesy of Goldbricker).
- 15-05-2012, 10:31 #444
- 15-05-2012, 10:42 #445
- Join Date
- Oct 2003
- The Isle of Innisfree
While these girls in Rochdale were victims (it's bad enough having to live there) one wonders what the care staff could have done when a pissed up teenager spoiling for a fight starts lobbing chairs about & cannot be reasoned with or restrained...To eat well in England one must have breakfast three times a day
London: its "buzz" and "vibrancy"... can be codewords for drugs, late-night noise and multi-culturalism run (literally) riot.
- 15-05-2012, 10:58 #446
Now I am not claiming that all Asian Muslims hate the UK. I am claiming that the vast majority of British Asians that declare a hatred of the UK are Muslims, I don't think that is a coincidence.
Race means damn near nothing. The largest genetic difference between any two humans is less that that between two chimps who live a few miles apart. We are all damn near identical biologically, culturally is different, we can be worlds apart on that.
- 15-05-2012, 14:55 #447
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- Jan 2010
However various friends & family were in various UK Police FORCES from S.Wales, Yorkshire, E Lancs & the Met! prior to the massive injection of Political correctness, diversity training and reducing the status from Forces charged with ENFORCING the law, to Services akin to social workers! The law SHOULD be applied equally to all, irrespective of race, creed or gender!
Unfortunately as others have said, too many senior ranks in the police & in the establishment seem to wish to apply special consideration and even the de facto condoning of various offences for many of the ethnic minorities as per the 3 somali women beating up a white woman shouting racial abuse! It is this thinking which has hindered impartial investigations into many crimes carried out by some minorities, this and the hordes of lawyers ever eager to swoop, with the help of over generous legal aid, & wave the race card or the human rights nonsense & claim huge ammounts of compensation for the often imagined grievances! My Step father, former D/Sgt & Father in Law, former C/Insp, must be spinning in their graves at the state of the mainly toothless & spineless Police organisations we have today, where ticking all the various diversity boxes is more important than detecting or preventing crime for fear of offending the sensibilities of certain ethnic groups!!
- 15-05-2012, 15:15 #448
An interesting point of view on what we are discussing here.
Racialising sexual crimes - Opinion - Al Jazeera English
"The truth is that commentators rush out their opinions based on their preconceived notions before they know the full facts"
The Arabist blog
- 15-05-2012, 17:13 #449
Breaking news on the BBC that a Met officer has been charged with trying to organise a child sex offence.
- 15-05-2012, 17:17 #450
I whole heartedly agree with your sentiment as a principle but feel that there is still a need for pragmatism in its execution.
There just aren't enough police around to effectively control public order. As we saw last summer the police don't have sufficient numbers to launch an immediate response to public disorder. Therefore no arrest or operation can ignore the possible effect on the local community their actions may have. Since many communities are on a knife edge due to our inability to offer them the dream life they possibly desire. I don't just mean immigrant communities either. Even in my sleepy village almost every arrest is accompanied by the arrestee kicking off and then a few mates coming along to help him out. The security officers at the local uni wear stab vests! People wont accept responsibility for anything these days, least of all there own actions and are all too quick to lash out, probably because from cradle to then they've never had anyone tell them they can't do something.
The Brixton riots showed the Met that you cannot constantly and consistently come down hard on a community and expect that community to just accept it. Justice has to be dispensed swiftly and proportionately and should be spread equally around the whole community. The police did not make our society a multi-cultural one. I rather suspect that, had they been asked they would have opted for a melting pot but they are doing the best they can with what they've got. However, whether we want it or not we've got it so we have to make the best of it with the dwindling number of law enforcement officers we have left.