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**jimmys_best_mate** · 30-04-2012, 17:24

Originally Posted by sunnoficarus

So who's going to pay for the huge increase in NHS spending to meet the fallout form the obesity issue?
Not the fat fucks, 99% don't work and don't contribute a penny in NI and tax to the economy.

That doesn't answer the question though. You're suggesting imposing limits on treatment for fat people, what about people who break legs playing sport? They still require treatment because of their lifestyle. What about people injured in RTAs? No-one forced them to drive, they're injured because of their lifestyle.

You see where it goes if you take away universal health care based on lifestyle?

As for 'fat fucks no working', if we only treat current tax payers that's an awful lot of pensioners who suddenly don't get health care anymore.

**sunnoficarus** · 30-04-2012, 17:24

Originally Posted by jarrod248

People who pay tax will pay.

Hate to break this to you, but the percentage of working to non and never worked is going down.

**sunnoficarus** · 30-04-2012, 17:25

Originally Posted by jimmys_best_mate

That doesn't answer the question though. You're suggesting imposing limits on treatment for fat people, what about people who break legs playing sport? They still require treatment because of their lifestyle. What about people injured in RTAs? No-one forced them to drive, they're injured because of their lifestyle.

You see where it goes if you take away universal health care based on lifestyle?

As for 'fat fucks no working', if we only treat current tax payers that's an awful lot of pensioners who suddenly don't get health care anymore.

No treatment for smokers or the obese: Doctors back measures to deny procedures for those with unhealthier lifestyles | Mail Online

The Doctors know the wheels are coming off the NHS gravy train.

**jimmys_best_mate** · 30-04-2012, 17:30

Originally Posted by sunnoficarus

No treatment for smokers or the obese: Doctors back measures to deny procedures for those with unhealthier lifestyles | Mail Online

The Doctors know the wheels are coming off the NHS gravy train.

They also back not giving all that tax money brought in from the sale of cigarettes to the NHS then, presumably?

So after smokers and fatties, who's next? Drivers or sports players?

**brighton hippy** · 30-04-2012, 17:31

if your obese your just going to die on the table ifthey try to operate on you.
anasethics and hippopigs dont mix.
little point doing a heart and lung work on someone smoking.

**chocolate_frog** · 30-04-2012, 17:34

Originally Posted by Pyianno

Small world!

No, just big people.

**rampant** · 30-04-2012, 17:35

Originally Posted by jumpinjarhead

Missed the point of your post-my apologies.

No apology required jjh, just continue the debate, with all posters on this thread, with your brio and southern charm.

**jarrod248** · 30-04-2012, 17:47

Originally Posted by sunnoficarus

Hate to break this to you, but the percentage of working to non and never worked is going down.

Yes it probably is so we'll have to pay more.

**jimmys_best_mate** · 30-04-2012, 17:50

No more medical treatment for pregnant women - they're pregnant because of their lifestyle.

No more medical treatment for pensioners - they're not taxpayers.

No more NHS treatment for injured soldiers - they're injured because of their lifestyle.

There's plenty of people you could refuse treatment to based on lifestyle or tax payments. And as soon as you allow the Government to do it to one group you can guarantee that plenty of others won't be far behind.

**Alamo** · 30-04-2012, 18:03

Originally Posted by jimmys_best_mate

No more medical treatment for pregnant women - they're pregnant because of their lifestyle.

No more medical treatment for pensioners - they're not taxpayers.

No more NHS treatment for injured soldiers - they're injured because of their lifestyle.

There's plenty of people you could refuse treatment to based on lifestyle or tax payments. And as soon as you allow the Government to do it to one group you can guarantee that plenty of others won't be far behind.

I agree that there is difficulty here, but I think you could argue that playing rugby, for instance, contributes to fitness, moral and physical robustness and personal responsibility, arguments that would be hard to make for smoking. That said, smokers put far more into the system by way of taxes than they take out in terms of treatment (or at least that was the case in 2002 when I last actively researched it).
I wouldn't want to go down the route of discriminating over lifestyles, but if the NHS was purely about health and not about lifestyle (IVF, plastic surgery (excepting accident victims), sex changes etc) then we may not have to. Also, Note to Self for fat fucks - bed sores hurt, if you don't want them then you know the drill, but don't expect a big comfy bed!