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Originally Posted by jim30

I dont think the military is in any position to criticise uniform roll out!

Will UKBA saff wear their shirts tucked in or out? sleeves rolled? will they have the Totenkopf capbadge above left eye or round by their ear? Will they get a windproof smock to wear outside? Will only Airport based staff be entitled to wear wings?

Will they have to parade twice a day so a bigger boy can check they aren't being naughty and wearing non issue uniform?

Most importantly will they qualify for a QDJM and what day do they get paid this month?

Originally Posted by jim30

Lets be fair, if the army was doing this, we'd be seeing at least 7 different variants of the uniform, with buttons on one cuff being of a different tarnish to the ones on the other 6 to reflect the ancient and much revered battle of "ooompaloompagonia" where humphrey ponsonby smyth deflected a very sharp mango with his sleeve. We'd then see several HQs worth of staff working out the correct ceremonial attire, the precedent for whether the passport inspector or his boss have to take salutes in the event that it is a notable date in the UKBA diary AND where the inspector holds the order of the rubber glove 1st class with (brown stained) laurels.

I dont think the military is in any position to criticise uniform roll out!

I think the point is these people worked "successfully" in plainclothes for many years. They were then put into "uniform" for some reason which appears to have nothing to do with operational effectiveness. They have since been "rebranded" at least once? And now again, if I understand it rightly.

I would rather the money be spent on acutally ensuring they do what they are supposed to, and what they appear incapable of doing; stopping people who should not be entering this country.

Just publish an accpetable dress standard, and let them do their work in plainclothes with their identification on display.

Job done, money saved.

Isn't that what we're all in it together about?

Where can one find a picture of these delightful quasi-SS uniforms?

Originally Posted by Boumer

I think the point is these people worked "successfully" in plainclothes for many years. They were then put into "uniform" for some reason which appears to have nothing to do with operational effectiveness. They have since been "rebranded" at least once? And now again, if I understand it rightly.

I would rather the money be spent on acutally ensuring they do what they are supposed to, and what they appear incapable of doing; stopping people who should not be entering this country.

Just publish an accpetable dress standard, and let them do their work in plainclothes with their identification on display.

Job done, money saved.

Isn't that what we're all in it together about?

Is the whole point of the uniform not to do with making them more obvious and generating some subconscios respect from people? It also combats the penchant for certain people (generally of all religious persuasions) to challenge rules on dress if a uniform is provided.

Coppers, M&S employees and BT engineers all wear a uniform. I think they should

Originally Posted by Command_doh

And let's not forget its okay to swear in copper's face's now....

Quite frankly some of the times it is warranted if you get some jumped up little cunt on a power trip.

Originally Posted by PBUH

Is the whole point of the uniform not to do with making them more obvious and generating some subconscios respect from people? It also combats the penchant for certain people (generally of all religious persuasions) to challenge rules on dress if a uniform is provided.

You may indeed have a point about religious dress exemptions.

I am afraid people seem long ago to have lost respect for uniforms, certainly the police. Ambulance staff are not exempt from being assaulted due to their unifrom.

Maybe I am pessimistic, normal nice people will be polite to everyone regardless of uniform (but even the good have a bad day, and then the uniform is no deterrent).

Others would not respect law, uniform or lawful force (because 'they know their rights' and 'you can't tell me what to do'"

Some cops do have a power trip. A bit of experience (either from the public or their relief) usually gets it out of them. If it doesn't, they're just a cock. And they'll be a cock in uniform or plainclothes, sadly.

Originally Posted by ashford_old_school

The UK Border Agency, whose decision to slash staff has led to huge immigration queues, has decided to issue staff with a new uniform which unions estimate will cost £2.5 million.

will it be 'up and in' or 'down and out' - that's all that matters.

Some consultant has probably convinced the senior management of the UKBA that moving over to a new uniform will symbolise a break from the inefficiencies and errors of the past and hence improve morale.

The alternative way to improve morale would be to run the UKBA efficiently so that staff felt they were working for an organisation that was 'fit for purpose'...

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