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Russia slams NATO’s Afghanistan exit plan
Some sense dawning in the Russian mind?Brussels — Russia’s foreign minister sharply criticized NATO’s plan to withdraw its forces from Afghanistan by 2014, saying Thursday that coalition troops should remain in the country until Afghan government forces are capable of ensuring security.
“As long as Afghanistan is not able to ensure by itself the security in the country, the artificial timelines of withdrawal are not correct and they should not be set,” Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said.....
Moscow views NATO’s military effort in Afghanistan as crucial for its own security, including helping to prevent instability from spreading into ex-Soviet Central Asia.
Russia has provided NATO with air corridors and railway routes for carrying supplies to and from landlocked Afghanistan. The link has become particularly important since Pakistan blocked NATO supplies from crossing its territory following an alliance airstrike that killed 24 Pakistani border troops in November.
On Thursday, Lavrov and NATO ministers discussed a plan to give the alliance a new logistics facility on Russian territory to transfer military cargo to and from Afghanistan.
The proposal now being considered by Russian lawmakers would for the first time allow alliance members to set up a logistics facility in Ulyanovsk, Russia, for troops and cargo.
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Well at least someone has thought about it, we seem to be leaving because it costs too much as opposed to it being job done.
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They are the experts at recent Afghan exit strategies...
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- 21-04-2012, 20:05 #4
Hmm - somebody remind me how good Russia's exit from Afghan was, and what a stable regime they left behind, because if they think they know better I must be mis-remembering it.
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- 21-04-2012, 20:09 #5
I think we should make Afghan the world's nuclear testing facility, we can invite Iran, N. Korea and anyone else who needs to test their buckets of sunshine, down there!
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NATO entanglement in Afghanistan has been a great thing for Russian foreign policy objectives. It's not surprising that they want it to continue, quite apart from the spectre of an Islamist training ground near their sphere of influence.
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If NATO in Afghanistan is crucial for Russian security... how many troops do the Russians have in Afghanistan again?
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Okay, I'll gently bite. I happily reveal that the Hashimi's are my adoptive family and that the degree of friendship, loyalty and protection afforded me in Afghanistan has surpassed anything that I've experienced outside 1 RNZIR (Okay, the last bit was a bit of a joke.)Instead of the instant sunshine gag (thich is getting a little bit worn, what with Iran, N Korea, and even Israel et al), could I invite y'all to consider how much of Afghanistan's present woes have been foisted on the Afghans by outside influences? Not just the bad boy Russians (who were sort of invited in) and the nasty neighbours in Pakistan, but the bleedin' eejit Westerners who decided to impose Western-style democracy on a culture and society that hasn't, in the main, emerged from a combination of tribalism and medieval patronage. Back at the onset of our longest modern conflict the aim was to get in, destroy AQ, negate the Taliban and prop up a nascent state until we could turn smartly to the right, salute and go home for tea and biscuits. It was not to try and impose a modern liberal democracy upon fghanistan - and so doing has been our undoing - and the fostering of the "nuke the 'Stan" school of thought. So doing has been, if you will forgive a bit of soapboxing, the cause of most of our present misfortune. As a certain meercat might say, sorting Afghanistan is not to be achieved by military action, but by standing back and supporting indrectly. If we don't like what emerges, tough: it has emerged through Afghan determination, not Western fiat. Simples. Originally Posted by Screw_The_Nut As long as war is regarded as wicked, it will always have its fascination.
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- 21-04-2012, 21:37 #10
And why not have it the West's way? We are, after all, super (apparently). And, bugger it all to hell, we can do anything we like because we carry a big stick.
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