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I was going to say 'his sort* probably benefit from a good tasering' but then noticed it wasn't the NAAFI, So I won't do that.

On a serious note it seems odd that if he had the police training he'd go through a cordon, approach officers who I'd assume were a bit busy.
An odd time of day to be acting all public spirited. However if he did act so calmly, and did try to explain himself even when he was surrounded, (seriously, he didn't swear or get aggressive at all?) then the coppers have fucked up right royally. Personally I'm assuming that the blame is somwhere in the middle, both sides fucked up (or one of them was looking for a reason to make a complaint)
Basically it all stinks to me.



*firemen ffs, see how you all assumed I was being racist.

No, just dense.

Originally Posted by Boris3098

"Kennedy-Macfoy was driving through Harrow around 3.30am on 4 September when he saw a young man hurl a rock at a police van."

Last September.
Aquitted in February.

Edit to add, He could quite easily have lost his job over this. And under ACAS he may not have got it back even when proved innocent.

Sorry, not as clear as it should have been, all the complaints seem to have arrived in a big lump, although some go back to 2010. Hence the bandwagon comment. As far as the fireman goes, I couldn't comment as we have his story, told to The Guardian, so it may not be as clearcut, as other posts seem to bear witness to.

Originally Posted by hogspawn

Nice to see the standard issue arrse Anti plod outrage bus fire up in reply to fkin Guardian article of all things.

Let me just add a few things I've heard from coppers I know about this.

He didn't 'just stop to ask directions' and tell them about a bloke who through a rock at a van.

He went through the police outer cordon when they had deployed shield officers at what was effectively a mini riot after a party got out of control.

People don't get tasered for nothing- every taser officer knows he'll be seriously dragged through the mud and accused of this sort of shite. Tasers are downloadable for this reason.

This lad also was a police recruit when he was 21 (7 years ago).

He says he left because his mum was ill, I have heard elsewhere that he was kicked out of training for driving offences. If so the Guardian needs to correct it's story.

So before you all go off half cocked and buy a season ticket for the outrage bus, read between the lines of this totally biased arse rag of a news paper.

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The problem is, that in any confrontation the Met have with black people, or where the matter doesn't pan out the way that person wants, they will be accused of racism. In my many years of working shitty council schemes, I attended many street disturbances and on quite a few occasions was approached by interfering busybodies who had nothing to do with the matter and had to be told to fuck off. The difference was that in my neck of the woods, these people were white, so racism wasn't a charge that could be levelled.

Originally Posted by shite, biased, newspaper report

Although Kennedy-Macfoy has worked alongside police officers "almost every day" for six years, and has a number of close friends in the police, he said he had struggled to return to work as a firefighter since the experience.

Says it all for me really.

Ker...ching!

Originally Posted by hogspawn

Nice to see the standard issue arrse Anti plod outrage bus fire up in reply to fkin Guardian article of all things.

Let me just add a few things I've heard from coppers I know about this.

He didn't 'just stop to ask directions' and tell them about a bloke who through a rock at a van.

He went through the police outer cordon when they had deployed shield officers at what was effectively a mini riot after a party got out of control.

People don't get tasered for nothing- every taser officer knows he'll be seriously dragged through the mud and accused of this sort of shite. Tasers are downloadable for this reason.

This lad also was a police recruit when he was 21 (7 years ago).

He says he left because his mum was ill, I have heard elsewhere that he was kicked out of training for driving offences. If so the Guardian needs to correct it's story.

So before you all go off half cocked and buy a season ticket for the outrage bus, read between the lines of this totally biased arse rag of a news paper.

A fair point, course the Guardian has an agenda-anyone with a warrant card is a paid up member of the KKK.

What concerns me deeply is a the police/prosecution case resulted in acquittal. Sadly my google-fu is weak this morning and I cannot find a contemporaneous report of the aquittal. Intersting what you say about driving offences, but without evidence of other dishonesty (ie, failure to disclose) that would hardly go to character in a criminal trial.

The bottom line is the evidence against was not compelling enought to convict

This lad clearly learnt something at Hendon, as he states his notes below were written in the cells about five hours after the incident. I wonder if the coppers IRB's are anything like as detailed?

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Originally Posted by Chef

Sorry, not as clear as it should have been, all the complaints seem to have arrived in a big lump, although some go back to 2010. Hence the bandwagon comment. As far as the fireman goes, I couldn't comment as we have his story, told to The Guardian, so it may not be as clearcut, as other posts seem to bear witness to.

Google his name.
Lots of versions told to lots of papers.
I didn't see the 2010 date, I just thought it would be 2011.