- 18-04-2012, 01:23 #91
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Some might judge him from their sofas. I wouldn't.
As for the police response in itself: yes, something went very wrong, mainly due to pre-existing conditions like the helicopter crew on summer holiday due to budget reasons, bad decisions in higher places, + someone not doing the math on max pax capacity of the RIB vs. weight of a squad of tooled up Delta.
The ****er was pinged as early as age 4 by child social security services. The father, a diplomat, tried to get parentage, but the mother won in court, she has a history of mental illness, and possibly also substance abuse or alcoholism.
The guy had a 'complex' relationship with his mother, and lacked a proper father figure.
Re: insanity stitch up? What are you on about? Psychiatry is not an exact science, it's filled with interpretations, various schools and ways of thinking, and people with axes to grind, especially against other 'competitors' within the same discipline, much like other academical arts. In any case, the commissions statements are not final, but purely an aide/advice which the court can choose to use, fully, partly or not at all.
Yes, there were a few with family ties to the Labour party or members of government, but the majority by far were daughers and sons of teachers, carpenters, a priest, immigrants, police officers etc.
Normal, scandinavian youth, of which most would probably spend a few youth years in AUF because they disapproved of racism, worried about global warming and preferred peace to war, without ever going on to climb to the dizzying heights of power.
I don't know if it's a historical class thing, but people outside Scandinavia seem to have a hard time grasping that this was neither an indoctrination camp for extreme lefties, nor a lush retreat filled with ministers children. I think the bastard, with his very limited ability to understand his surroundings and how our world works, didn't get that either.
There's a video out from a Progress Youth Wing party, where he tries to go over and dance with some girls who are quite drunk and rubbing onto each other. They just laugh and turn away from him. He goes back to sit alone in a sofa, noone sitting next to, or talking with him. A good summing up of him in general in a few seconds.
The bastard wasn't well off.
1) Already in infancy, he showed signs of mental problems, some of it possibly caused, or aggravated by his home conditions.
2) Although in a posh part of town, his mothers flats, in which he also lived, were small, 'sub-standard' for the area, and nothing special.
3) He was arrested for 'tagging', ie. the most primitive form of graffiti, in his youth, and was a 'hiphopper' for several years in his teens.
4) He then 'sharped up', started to work out (possibly to compensate for physical shortcomings and beatings he had received from other youth), but did steroids (yet another sign of his inherent laziness and lack of appreciation for effort).
5) He dumped from his upper secondary school at 19, just before the final exams, because 'he didn't need them'. A basic lack of understanding for how society works, but a narcissist who believes he deserves to and will have everything coming to him anyway doesn't get that.
6) His 'grand money schemes' mainly consisted of borrowing money from his mother, and, somewhat of a surprise here, selling fake education diplomas over the internet internationally and at the end, overdrafting several credit cards.
In his part of Oslo, many kids would expect to be, and talk about being our local equivalent of your city brokers/bankers, something that rubbed off on him as well, although he didn't have the ability to go through with the education that is the pre-requisite of that, nor the ability of socialising with other people which is also nice to have if you want to make a mark in society.
He was and is a failure, and knew/knows it deep inside, but due to his pathological traits, chose and managed to explain all that away, and found a big 'cause' to make all those nasty little fiascos, losses, and feelings of inadequacy go away.
I would not be surprised if it turns out he's a closet homosexual-in-denial as well, if he wasn't secretly dreaming of shagging his mother, or both.
Wishing to be some kind of ideal man in a certain way, and then seeing the 'wrong' images when you're flogging your bishop can probably make you very angry.
- 18-04-2012, 06:37 #92
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Last edited by cernunnos; 18-04-2012 at 06:39.Sent from the Teutoberg Forest in darkest Germany using fuck off big bongo drums!
- 18-04-2012, 09:23 #93
Though he's eccentric in rejecting a traditional white power narrative (that he seems to think is just too plebeian to be tasteful) in favor of a more romantic chivalric clash of his holy Crusader with an inferior but not ignoble radical Muslim foe. This is perhaps his only area of ideological innovation, he actually takes the apocalyptic Takfiri ideology AQ as an inspiration. In this case rather than declaring fellow believers apostate and therefore fair game he has his fellow Norwegians as traitors to the Western tradition.
This is a propaganda trend on the insurgent right you can even see in the GOP with even centrist Republicans being demonized as a traitorous fifth column of RHINOs. And a timidly liberal POTUS depicted as a Socialist/Nazi Kenyan stealth Muslim terrorist seeking to destroy Godly white America by installing Sharia, euthanizing grandma, banning guns and inflicting reparations for slavery. It would be an hilarious parody of paranoid politics except in the internet age this hysterical nonsense gains considerable traction.That's the most foul, cruel, and bad-tempered rodent you ever set eyes on!
- 18-04-2012, 09:24 #94I am not the official representative of the Digital Outreach Team from the House of Commons; we are politically impractical and cannot comment on government policy or give a political opinion.-'cos they haven't made up their minds yet.
- 18-04-2012, 09:42 #95
Yes well... That or he had to invent a personal fruitloop creed that explained why the other fruitloops told him to sling his hook, just like everyone else had.
Utoya was not a mission inspired by a manifesto or a creed, rather the manifesto is an excuse for his actions, a justification for child abuse.
And daddy didn't put his drawings on the fridge.HMS Queen Elizabeth. Fitted for but not with airyplanes.
- 18-04-2012, 09:43 #96
- 18-04-2012, 10:13 #97
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There seems to be a whole lot of high fluting dribble and nonsense wibbling here.
What ever his views deranged or not, a 9mm in the back of the head up Black Mountain will resolve this deranged Tory party worker.
- 18-04-2012, 10:13 #98
But if it isn't the "Knight's Templar", it'll be "all women are whores", "I'm oppressed by intellectuals", "I'm keen on/I am not fond of Allah" or "This is the ultimate expression of performance art".
The fact is they just want to kick puppies and have an excuse waiting other than "I express my utter hatred of myself and the world by hurting things that can't hurt me back" for when mummy catches them.HMS Queen Elizabeth. Fitted for but not with airyplanes.
- 18-04-2012, 10:27 #99
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