- 26-04-2012, 22:17 #31
1) Do you think some of our enemies care about irradiating the oceans? Actually we never did when we were developing our nuclear arsenals:
Bikini Atoll - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
2) There may come a day when we would need to use tactical nukes, or would want a missile with long range, guaranteed fleet-kill capability.
- 26-04-2012, 22:29 #32
- 26-04-2012, 22:31 #33
Actually come to think of it the easiest way to achieve a missile/torpedo hybrid without having to fiddle with getting the geometry and nosecone profile simultaneously right for air/aquatic travel is to have something like a UAV-torpedo hybrid.
The UAV carries a supercavitating torpedo towards the target using a fuel efficient turbofan, and drops the supercavitating torpedo into the water the moment it detects countermeasures being launched.
A UAV-torpedo hybrid is at a much higher TRL than a single, unified missile/torpedo hybrid. Actually we are already there - both armed UAVs and supercavitating torpedoes exist.
- 26-04-2012, 22:45 #34
Mr Hitler beat you to the concept with the Henschel Hs294.
- 26-04-2012, 22:49 #35
Consider that the VA-111 Shkval supercavitating torpedo weighed 2700kg and has a range of ~10km. Meanwhile a AS-6 Kingfish missile has a mass of 4000kg but a range of 300-700km.
While the hybrid is airborne, it is vulnerable. If it has to dive beyond the range of its torpedo stage, it will fall short of the target.
Possible solutions to this are:
1) More energy dense propellants for the torpedo stage
2) Optimised nosecone and body profile of the supercavitating torpedo stage using CFD simulation
3) Rocket booster stages which drop off, like ground-space rockets
4) Nuclear thermal propulsion
- 23-06-2012, 16:17 #36
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- 23-06-2012, 17:27 #37
- 23-06-2012, 18:08 #38
super-cavitating torpedos were designed for a specific scenario; one that didn't include surface ships."In war the loser deserves to lose because his defeat must result from errors of thinking, made either before or during the conflict" Gen Andre Beaufre
- 23-06-2012, 19:46 #39
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So, the French invent or develop something rather good. Next stop: Argentina.
- 23-06-2012, 20:17 #40