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Discuss Inside the Ring: Beijing coup rumors in Current Affairs, News and Analysis on The Army Rumour Service; Originally Posted by armchair_jihad A cracking series of serious posts carrots, any chance of a cut an paste of the article link above as the Great Fire Wall of China is hyper sensitive these days. ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by armchair_jihad View Post
    A cracking series of serious posts carrots, any chance of a cut an paste of the article link above as the Great Fire Wall of China is hyper sensitive these days. Wen is being most active as you say and in the eyes of the people, at least the ones I talk to, his wife is controversial and as to the son....
    I'll PM you. It's in the public domain but I don't want to cause the site any copyright problems.
    We need people who look to the stars, holding the nation and the world in their hearts but at the same time we need down-to-earth people who can do serious and trying work.

    In a definite sense, a country's power and prestige isn't only a reflection of its economic power but also a reflection of its people's quality and morality. Moreover, I think the latter is actually more important in the long-term.

    http://www.economist.com/blogs/multi...na_has_changed

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    'There is much to learn from the British: their reticence about disclosing details, their clear expertise in human intelligence, their non-hysterical reaction to very real threats. Many Americans may have an inferiority complex about things British -- the refinement, the style and, of course, those accents' -

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...081101399.html

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    Another interesting twist to the case, if it pans out. Reuters link.

    Another development is a report in the Xinhua offshoot EEN Weekly that the billionaire head of the Dalian Shide Group, Xu Ming, has been arrested and the Central Commission for Discipline Inspection is investigating his dealings. He's a close associate of Bo Xilai from Bo's days in Liaoning.
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    We need people who look to the stars, holding the nation and the world in their hearts but at the same time we need down-to-earth people who can do serious and trying work.

    In a definite sense, a country's power and prestige isn't only a reflection of its economic power but also a reflection of its people's quality and morality. Moreover, I think the latter is actually more important in the long-term.

    http://www.economist.com/blogs/multi...na_has_changed

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    Guinness. It's the first food group.


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    BBC are now reporting that Bo Xilai has been dismissed from his key posts in the Chinese Communist Party.
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    Bo's Born Again Mao line seems to have spooked the CPC.

    Though it is conjecture, but given the growing disparity amongst the people, it appears that Bo and his line of thinking was getting a wee bit dangerous and would seriously affect China's move to a capitalist economy.

    In fact, Wen has warned of another 'Cultural Revolution' for China would be dangerous.

    Lack of reform may invite another Cultural Revolution: Wen
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    Reports in some Chinese media sources that the ultimate mover behind Bo's dismissal was Qiao Shi, former Vice-Premier of the State Council and member of the PSC. He's officially retired but the most senior former officials often exert power through their proteges, as in the Jiang Zemin case I've already mentioned.

    Qiao had a decent reputation in his day as someone genuinely pushing for a law-based system of governance rather than a power/expedience-based one. He was at odds with Jiang and it's fairly likely that his eventual retirement was the result of losing a power struggle with the Shanghai Clique. It would be entirely consistent that he exerted pressure or influence in this case.
    We need people who look to the stars, holding the nation and the world in their hearts but at the same time we need down-to-earth people who can do serious and trying work.

    In a definite sense, a country's power and prestige isn't only a reflection of its economic power but also a reflection of its people's quality and morality. Moreover, I think the latter is actually more important in the long-term.

    http://www.economist.com/blogs/multi...na_has_changed

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    Some interesting news coming in given what you say SAC:

    China has detained the wife of one of the country’s most flamboyant politicians after announcing that the death of the British businessman Neil Heywood was murder. Gu Kailai, a lawyer and the wife of the politician Bo Xilai - who was Communist Party boss of the city of Chongqing until he was sacked last month - is under investigation in connection with the case. Xinhua, the state news agency, said: “The existing evidence indicated that Heywood died of homicide, of which Bogu Kailai and Zhang Xiaojun, an orderly at Bo’s home, are highly suspected.” The report said: “Bogu Kailai and Zhang Xiaojun have been transferred to judicial authorities on suspected crime of intentional homicide.”
    From TheTimes this evening

    Edited to add: Should have read the lates posts here
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    An entirely unrelated but amusing side-story in that the Dalian-based Wanda Group have issued a public statement vehemently denying that their Chairman, Wang Jianlin, has been placed 'under control' but instead had routine meetings with officials in his role as a member of the National Committee of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference.

    In the wake of Xu Ming's arrest mentioned above (also a Dalian-based businessman), it looks like the world and his parakeet are desperate to put distance between themselves and Bo.
    We need people who look to the stars, holding the nation and the world in their hearts but at the same time we need down-to-earth people who can do serious and trying work.

    In a definite sense, a country's power and prestige isn't only a reflection of its economic power but also a reflection of its people's quality and morality. Moreover, I think the latter is actually more important in the long-term.

    http://www.economist.com/blogs/multi...na_has_changed

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    We need people who look to the stars, holding the nation and the world in their hearts but at the same time we need down-to-earth people who can do serious and trying work.

    In a definite sense, a country's power and prestige isn't only a reflection of its economic power but also a reflection of its people's quality and morality. Moreover, I think the latter is actually more important in the long-term.

    http://www.economist.com/blogs/multi...na_has_changed

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