- 01-04-2012, 10:53 #31Senior Member

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We need people who look to the stars, holding the nation and the world in their hearts but at the same time we need down-to-earth people who can do serious and trying work.
In a definite sense, a country's power and prestige isn't only a reflection of its economic power but also a reflection of its people's quality and morality. Moreover, I think the latter is actually more important in the long-term.
http://www.economist.com/blogs/multi...na_has_changed
- 01-04-2012, 10:58 #32
Cheers!
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Another interesting twist to the case, if it pans out. Reuters link.
Another development is a report in the Xinhua offshoot EEN Weekly that the billionaire head of the Dalian Shide Group, Xu Ming, has been arrested and the Central Commission for Discipline Inspection is investigating his dealings. He's a close associate of Bo Xilai from Bo's days in Liaoning.Last edited by smartascarrots; 01-04-2012 at 12:29.
We need people who look to the stars, holding the nation and the world in their hearts but at the same time we need down-to-earth people who can do serious and trying work.
In a definite sense, a country's power and prestige isn't only a reflection of its economic power but also a reflection of its people's quality and morality. Moreover, I think the latter is actually more important in the long-term.
http://www.economist.com/blogs/multi...na_has_changed
- 01-04-2012, 13:26 #34
Censorship in China: Crackdown on bloggers as rumours of coup swirl | World news | The Observer
The Observer's take on what's currently happening.Guinness. It's the first food group.
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- 10-04-2012, 16:35 #35
BBC are now reporting that Bo Xilai has been dismissed from his key posts in the Chinese Communist Party.
Guinness. It's the first food group.
The Gentlemen of The Excise: - Ensuring that Bad Things Happen To Bad People Since 1643
"If I can shoot rabbits, I can kill fascists" (If you tolerate this, then your children will be next).
- 10-04-2012, 17:27 #36
Bo's Born Again Mao line seems to have spooked the CPC.
Though it is conjecture, but given the growing disparity amongst the people, it appears that Bo and his line of thinking was getting a wee bit dangerous and would seriously affect China's move to a capitalist economy.
In fact, Wen has warned of another 'Cultural Revolution' for China would be dangerous.
Lack of reform may invite another Cultural Revolution: Wen
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- 10-04-2012, 20:17 #37Senior Member

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Reports in some Chinese media sources that the ultimate mover behind Bo's dismissal was Qiao Shi, former Vice-Premier of the State Council and member of the PSC. He's officially retired but the most senior former officials often exert power through their proteges, as in the Jiang Zemin case I've already mentioned.
Qiao had a decent reputation in his day as someone genuinely pushing for a law-based system of governance rather than a power/expedience-based one. He was at odds with Jiang and it's fairly likely that his eventual retirement was the result of losing a power struggle with the Shanghai Clique. It would be entirely consistent that he exerted pressure or influence in this case.We need people who look to the stars, holding the nation and the world in their hearts but at the same time we need down-to-earth people who can do serious and trying work.
In a definite sense, a country's power and prestige isn't only a reflection of its economic power but also a reflection of its people's quality and morality. Moreover, I think the latter is actually more important in the long-term.
http://www.economist.com/blogs/multi...na_has_changed
- 10-04-2012, 20:29 #38
Some interesting news coming in given what you say SAC:
From TheTimes this eveningChina has detained the wife of one of the country’s most flamboyant politicians after announcing that the death of the British businessman Neil Heywood was murder. Gu Kailai, a lawyer and the wife of the politician Bo Xilai - who was Communist Party boss of the city of Chongqing until he was sacked last month - is under investigation in connection with the case. Xinhua, the state news agency, said: “The existing evidence indicated that Heywood died of homicide, of which Bogu Kailai and Zhang Xiaojun, an orderly at Bo’s home, are highly suspected.” The report said: “Bogu Kailai and Zhang Xiaojun have been transferred to judicial authorities on suspected crime of intentional homicide.”
Edited to add: Should have read the lates posts here
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An entirely unrelated but amusing side-story in that the Dalian-based Wanda Group have issued a public statement vehemently denying that their Chairman, Wang Jianlin, has been placed 'under control' but instead had routine meetings with officials in his role as a member of the National Committee of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference.
In the wake of Xu Ming's arrest mentioned above (also a Dalian-based businessman), it looks like the world and his parakeet are desperate to put distance between themselves and Bo.We need people who look to the stars, holding the nation and the world in their hearts but at the same time we need down-to-earth people who can do serious and trying work.
In a definite sense, a country's power and prestige isn't only a reflection of its economic power but also a reflection of its people's quality and morality. Moreover, I think the latter is actually more important in the long-term.
http://www.economist.com/blogs/multi...na_has_changed
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We need people who look to the stars, holding the nation and the world in their hearts but at the same time we need down-to-earth people who can do serious and trying work.
In a definite sense, a country's power and prestige isn't only a reflection of its economic power but also a reflection of its people's quality and morality. Moreover, I think the latter is actually more important in the long-term.
http://www.economist.com/blogs/multi...na_has_changed




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