does this mean that have accepted that they have lost the war then?

Originally Posted by Cabana

does this mean that have accepted that they have lost the war then?

not at all, its just that we've decided when we'll declare victory.

Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

not at all, its just that we've decided when we'll declare victory.

Ah right.....cunning!

i imagine they're just trying to decide on the design of the war on terror victory medal.

Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

i imagine they're just trying to decide on the design of the war on terror victory medal.

Oh, don't say that here.....next thing we know there will be hoards of people whining that they are entitled to one!

Originally Posted by Fallschirmjager

Obviously the US meetings with the taliban have failed big time. The US have realised they're flogging a dead horse, though how Cameron will sell the pull out to the UK masses is yet to be seen. I suppose it will be along the lines of the ANSF are now big enough to stand on their own two feet. A massive overstatement!

Fally,

Do you think that UK public opinion will care? How much media coverage is there now of Iraq? How many of the general public know, let alone discuss the final years in Basra? Cameron will be on an election winner of epic proportions when he brings the lads home and then gives them their P45s... "Hey everyone, I have reduced the budget deficit AND made our lads and lasses safe..." Talk about two birds with one stone. As History Man has opined, 60K troops might be nearer the mark at the end of all this especially if you took the hints from Gen. Sir P Wall this week saying that the peacetime Army may get smaller yet, he is just a servant of the politicians.

Brit Mil have got into too many fights at the same time and now lying on the floor people are making sure they don't walk again for a long time, but that is another Thread.

Originally Posted by Fallschirmjager

If the US pull off the ground and the UK stays on the ground I can see our casualty rates going up massively.

But it's the Special Relationship :P the UK will pull out as soon as Obama says 'go'. There's no profit in staying in Afghanistan as soon as the yanks go home.

Originally Posted by Kromeriz

Fally,

Do you think that UK public opinion will care? How much media coverage is there now of Iraq? How many of the general public know, let alone discuss the final years in Basra? Cameron will be on an election winner of epic proportions when he brings the lads home and then gives them their P45s... "Hey everyone, I have reduced the budget deficit AND made our lads and lasses safe..." Talk about two birds with one stone. As History Man has opined, 60K troops might be nearer the mark at the end of all this especially if you took the hints from Gen. Sir P Wall this week saying that the peacetime Army may get smaller yet, he is just a servant of the politicians.

Brit Mil have got into too many fights at the same time and now lying on the floor people are making sure they don't walk again for a long time, but that is another Thread.

I think the British public know that this is a US war, so if the US pull out and have no staying power to see it through, it is pointless anyone else staying.

Originally Posted by redshift

Repeat this: Ending combat missions does not equal pulling out.

And saying it again, just to absorb the "fact."

Colour me cynical, but that just about gives time to start up with Iran - and all the kit in AFG can be moved there direct.

Originally Posted by genuine_exscaley

Colour me cynical, but that just about gives time to start up with Iran - and all the kit in AFG can be moved there direct.

once Iran is sorted, that gives a sea port to carry on getting supplies into Afghanistan to continue that as Pakistan aren't playing ball any more. Although I think Iran will be much more troublesome then Iraq/Afghanistan.