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Originally Posted by sunnoficarus

Maximum disability benefits.

SNIP

The only hope now then is that the new medicals weed out the wheat from the chaff........

Originally Posted by cometcatcher

The only hope now then is that the new medicals weed out the wheat from the chaff........

Ah, but there's the rub!

Will these 'medical assessments' be carried out by fully trained medical professionals who can spot said chaff playing at being wheat, or will it be some contracted in outfit that gives Joe Bloggs a 2 day course in conducting 'medical assessments'?

Originally Posted by sunnoficarus

Ah, but there's the rub!

Will these 'medical assessments' be carried out by fully trained medical professionals who can spot said chaff playing at being wheat, or will it be some contracted in outfit that gives Joe Bloggs a 2 day course in conducting 'medical assessments'?

Seeing how GROUP4 SECURITY got the contract, I'm going with Joe Bloggs MD.

Originally Posted by cometcatcher

Seeing how GROUP4 SECURITY got the contract, I'm going with Joe Bloggs MD.

I thought GROUP 4 was a wind up…

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Originally Posted by sunnoficarus

You can get treatment pretty much on demand using a private dentist, but my last filling cost me a rather eye watering £115.

Another example of this. In my last year of service I needed a new gumshield. I was entitled to request one becasue I played a contact sport.

The fact this was a civvy not Army team didn't matter - I went to the Fang Farrier's assistant, was measured up & had a bespoke one delivered in about three weeks. Cost to me? Nowt. Cost outside? Starts at £40 for anything good.

Nope, G4S will be bringing all of their medical prowess to the task of migrating the UK's 3.2 million DLA recipients onto PIP.

This can only end well. Just look at the complete hash ATOS are making of the Incapacity/ESA migration!

Originally Posted by cometcatcher

Nope, G4S will be bringing all of their medical prowess to the task of migrating the UK's 3.2 million DLA recipients onto PIP.

This can only end well. Just look at the complete hash ATOS are making of the Incapacity/ESA migration!

So tell me Brandon Bullethead, what were you doing before you became a Group 4 'Medical Assessor'?

I was a door steward innit mush.

And before that?

I was a 'bag checker' at ASDA innit.

Originally Posted by cometcatcher

Nope, G4S will be bringing all of their medical prowess to the task of migrating the UK's 3.2 million DLA recipients onto PIP.

This can only end well. Just look at the complete hash ATOS are making of the Incapacity/ESA migration!

nah its not a complete hash, there doing exactly what was asked of them and refusing 90% of all people any right to claim regardless of there physical condition, the fact the assessment is called a limited capability for work assessment, and any phisical barrier to work is clearly a limitation is just a smokescreen, either your capable ro seek employment or your not in there eyes, so only people with mental health issues or the severly sick qualify for any support, on the grounds that DLA will cover the gap in earnings potential and thus JSA will be fine as your DLA entitles you to a blue or orange badge which means your employer can claim the correct tax breaks for employing a disabled person....

the problem is new dla claiments who are out of work must qualify for ESA in order to claim DLA, so effectivly there saying anyone who can seek employment in any form is entitled ot zero help meaning there either stuck claiming nothing (JSA requires either an assessment of fit to seek employment or a DLA assessment) or going through the continuous apeals process under ESA, tha latter is rather stressfull and is what has caused so many suicides in the last few years within this rather ulnerable area of society...

the new PIP system will just excacerbate the problems further, no matter who gets the contract to perform the job, and given the trial progress was a complete fabrication just like the ESA trial reports were (they used known fit helathy people to conduct the trial in a role play and then everyone gave it a positive review) i am seriously doubtfull anyone will be happy once its inplace, not least of which is because they used several disabled champions of work to pioneer the system, people who openly admit they were born that way who have absolutly no idea about the problems other forms of life long disabled people suffer, and who have no clue at all what its like to go from fit and healthy to disabled, the social impact it has on the idvidual never mind the economic impact, and then to prove there case they got a bunch of service personel who were taking full advantage of the help available via various outlets to get back on there feet and used them as the example to the rest of hte country, never mind the fact places like headly court (whilst fantastic) are unavalable to the average person, the charities providing help and support are also unavailable, meaning that all in all the averatge disabled person has little to know help outside of a few outpatient appointments

its all smoke screens designed ot hide the fact that whilst a few people can and indeed do over come something most cant no matter how much they might like to, ( nad no i'm not meaning to enrage or denigrate the people who do, especialy not those injured in service) simpy because they dont have the help or guidance to do so....