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In this context I find Iran, Iraq Agree to Create Joint Shipping Company, Fars Reports - Bloomberg confusing.

Originally Posted by Robbo_72

For Oil or not for Oil. For democracy or for control?

One things for sure, One by one the ME countries are either bought out, democratically toppled by students and terrorists, or invaded/liberated/annexed. Well, at least the ones that produce oil or are in the path of oil imports are. Coincidence maybe.

The US media is now playing up threats of an Iranian sanctioned strike on US soil, The same time as Iran decides to wise up to UN inspections and negotiations?

Hmmmm.....err coincidence? conflicting news on each side of the pond........Who's intelligence is more accurate and trustworthy?

Something doesn't look right about this and I sense it could very dangerous ground.

Tough and testing times for civil/military leadership.

there attempting to hype up the so called planning of an assassination by some iranian types using localy hired dipshits, its a good way of driving the public outrage and generating the required bomb them into oblivion retoric the USA seems to need before it embarks on the rather periless job of launching its gigantic war machine, leaking the planning exercise notes surrounding how it would be cheaper to bulldoze through iran than pay neghbouring states to drive there gear out of afghan is probably also desinged to generate the blood baying required for an offensive.

irans suddenly deciding to tlet the un team in seams more like vying for time to work out there next move (the usa cant invade without proper cause and they need ot make sure tey dont give them that cause) then again of course if they have managed ot make a few warheads to strap on those delivery systems that could in essance be the catalyst to increase tensions or dispel them once and for all....

Four bombs,,four targets,,which ones?.....

Israel says Iran has material for four A-bombs - Yahoo!

Originally Posted by tuffy52

Four bombs,,four targets,,which ones?.....

Israel says Iran has material for four A-bombs - Yahoo!

they would need all 4 just to take out half of isreal unless they somehow manged ot upgrade the explosive yield, never mind they would actually need someway of delivering such a heavy payload, 250kg's of uranium for a single warhead and itsn ot going ot cause much more damage than the same ammount of nitroglycerine but it will have the side effect of creating a massive ammount of fallout, its not even realisticly viable for anything other than area denial, unless there planning ot hit something that already has a massvie ammount of fissile materiel and are hoping for a cascade reaction.....

Originally Posted by tuffy52

Four bombs,,four targets,,which ones?.....

Israel says Iran has material for four A-bombs - Yahoo!

A totally predictable response from Israel.
They should try declaring to the world how many Nuclear warheads they have before shooting their mouths off.
Those in glass houses...blah blah blah.
Notice how the rest of the civilized world openly declares what nuclear deterrants they have, And Israel (insert excuse or reason here) wont participate.
Let's face it, Israel's nukes could be ANYWHERE in the world!!!!!
I'm not saying Iran is no saint (there clearly is an issue there), nor am I bashing Israel, But if you want decent mates in your neighborhood you have be honest about serious matters, both ways.

Personally, I expect some sort of 'pearl harbor' event with lots of finger pointing and eventual 10 year firefight to ensue.

I hope we don't get suckered into this tinderbox, It'll be shit.

If Iran is producing nuclear weapons and sufficiently long-range delivery systems their only purpose must be to obliterate Israel. There is no evidence that Israel has any offensive ideas against anyone else except as necessary for self-preservation, which is the duty of its democratic Govt, and justified by repeated aggression against it by its Muslim neighbours ever since the state of Israel was founded, the only possible expectation in 2012 being more of the same. And no I haven't forgotten how much British soldiers' blood was shed to bring that State to independence, nor the disgusting and murderous way the Israelis thanked us for it.

Panetta believes Israel could strike Iran this spring – CNN Security Clearance - CNN.com Blogs

Originally Posted by seaweed

If Iran is producing nuclear weapons and sufficiently long-range delivery systems their only purpose must be to obliterate Israel. There is no evidence that Israel has any offensive ideas against anyone else except as necessary for self-preservation, which is the duty of its democratic Govt, and justified by repeated aggression against it by its Muslim neighbours ever since the state of Israel was founded, the only possible expectation in 2012 being more of the same. And no I haven't forgotten how much British soldiers' blood was shed to bring that State to independence, nor the disgusting and murderous way the Israelis thanked us for it.

Apart from invading its norther neighbours 3 times, bombing several other countries it was not at war with at the time (Tunisia, Syria, Sudan), planning and conducting illegal operations in muslim countries that are actually relatively friendly to Israel (Jordan and UAE).

Granted,initially Israeli actions were justified by a doctrine of self defence, but the past 20 years they have proven to be one of the most aggressive and volatile states in the region. Now even its allies are begging it not to take on a course of action with very unpredictable results and could effect us here in Europe massively.

As for aqquring nukes, it seems that no matter how crazy a nation is, owning nukes do have some sort of a sobering effect (Pakistan, India,North Korea).


Once Iran aqquires a capability I am sure they may think they are much safer. I do not think anyone in Iran is under any illusion as to what would happen to it if it used just one of those weapons....