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Perfectly fine Micawber .... so long as if one of his acolytes whom he inspires to bomb the carp out of us, the people blown up are your family, Piannos and like minded liberals and not mine.

Originally Posted by exile1

Perfectly fine Micawber .... so long as if one of his acolytes whom he inspires to bomb the carp out of us, the people blown up are your family, Piannos and like minded liberals and not mine.

I am not in favour of extra-judicial detention. The only reason it exists is because the government refuses to disclose evidence adduced by the security services through covert means in open court.

I repeat my earlier point. If somebody is guilty of inciting violence or terrorism, or is plotting to undertake either activity themselves, then there are laws with which to charge them and they should be given a fair trial just as anybody else would be.

You cannot, simply by labelling something as 'terrorism', justify bypassing the judiciary for political convenience. That is McCarthyism by another name.

Originally Posted by Micawber

It all boils down to deciding if we are going to take a moral stand against torture.

Even though the Jordanians have promised not to wire him personally up to the mains, he will still stand trial and face evidence that has been extracted from others under torture.

As I understand it, this is only an allegation made by Qatada and his lawyers. He has provided no evidence the testimonies heard in a Jordanian court were obtained by torture. Jordan provided legal assurances that Qatada wouldn't be tortured but refused to provide an assurance that torture would never be used in any other case at any time in the future. And why should they? They are not bound by the ECHR and are entitled to run their own justice system as they see fit. Why should they change what they do for the sake of one twice-convicted criminal?

Fine, when he gets released, have a car waiting to take him straight to Palestine, one of his nationalities, and let the Jordanians know what flight he's on

He claimed asylum in this country. He has never, as far as I'm aware, worked, paid taxes or otherwise contributed to British society. He's a parasite and he has repaid the generosity of the the British people by advocating terrorism against non-Muslims. Including the murder of women and children.

We owe him nothing, and he should be deported as soon as humanly possible. And I'm sorry, but I don't give a fuck if the Jordanians make him star in a remake of Hostel.

Originally Posted by Pyianno

I am not in favour of extra-judicial detention.

And I am not in favour of extra-judicial execution. But sometimes you really can see its appeal.

Originally Posted by Ancient_Mariner

Just make sure that the house is in the delightful Easterhouse estate in Glasgow and Mr Qatada will very quickly cease to be a problem.

Yeah, but is he a Catholic Muslim Extremist or a Protestant Muslim Extremist?

Originally Posted by Pigshyt_Freeman

And I am not in favour of extra-judicial execution. But sometimes you really can see its appeal.

Well, seeking asylum from a country and then inciting terrorism against the citizens who have granted you asylum is rather hypocritical. However, that is not a license to lock people up indefinitely without trial.