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    I bet organised crime has been well prepared for a year!

    They will have completed their cost/benefit analysis, sorted their targets and be ready to deploy their range of services as requireds.

    Advantages?

    1) plenty of staff, they won't even have to remove them from the benefits system
    2) no SIA licensing, no security checks, (possibly just a quick check on the police computer to make sure they have form).
    3) multi-language capability in their staff
    4) efficient staff supervision, they do them over they get their legs broken
    5) efficient management, "you tell the boss he's wrong!"
    6) no need to massage ncome and expenditure figures


    We should hand the job over! They won't stand for any terrorism!

    .. and you can trust them not to rob us any more than every taxpayer has been robbed so far and will be so until the true cost is wrapped up in a few years time...
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    It appears that the military tasked with security duties will fall to be managed by the private security sector although we are assured that day to day tasking will be within the military chain of command. This would appear to be an extension of the current government's practice of using public money to reduce the financial overheads of the business sector. It is similar to the measures quietly introduced by the government to provide forced labour for the 'big four' group of supermarkets - Tescos. Morrisons, Sainsburys and Asda from among those in receipt of benefits who will lose it unless they carry out 30 hours of unpaid work per week stacking shelves and cleaning even though benefit levels are about a third of the minimum wage. The business sector, and presumably the shareholders (who may or may not include MPs and members of the Cabinet) appear to be the principal beneficiaries of such a vast amount of free-unpaid and pressed labour. The Ministry of Justice has recently extended to 40 hours per week, the amount of time convicted prisoners are to work for private sector companies employed, inter alia, sewing mailbags and producing children's toys. I see a general pattern beginning to emerge in the Government's thinking.

    If the use of military manpower is a success, then I would not be at all surprised if, as is the practice in other countries, it is not rolled-out in other commercial areas of endeavour to the extent where it would not be uncommon to see soldiers being deployed, for example, to gather in the Summer Harvest!
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    In addition, it's right in the middle of school holidays so that is another f**k about factor for a lot of people.

    Probably still better than a lot of annual camps though...

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Duke View Post
    But you presumably need to allow time for training and familiarisation beforehand? Best make that 3 to 4 weeks of which 2 will be over the games themselves. This takes it beyond the standard TA training requirement, and a massive chunk out of the annual leave allocation for most employees.

    An interesting "test" of the TA - Are its members willing to put themselves at a significant employment and financial disadvantage to cover up for a collosal planning and budget cluster by the UK government in an area entirely unrelated to military operations or UK resilience?

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    Quote Originally Posted by supermatelot View Post
    Hold on a minute...

    This whole operation will require a name of some sorts - like Op Fresco etc.

    I propose Op RingStretch.
    Op BOHICA?

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    As for Medal I believe that was done on on page one. by the noble plume himself.
    Well, well. I've been called many things here & elsewhere, most of them not repeatable on a family website, but "noble" is a first

    Anyway, lots of being buggered about & area cleaning? Sounds exactly like a 2 (NC) Sig Bde exercise without the mind-numbing tedium...
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    Hit nail on head

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainPlume View Post
    Anyway, lots of being buggered about & area cleaning? Sounds exactly like a 2 (NC) Sig Bde exercise without the mind-numbing tedium...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iolis View Post
    It appears that the military tasked with security duties will fall to be managed by the private security sector although we are assured that day to day tasking will be within the military chain of command. This would appear to be an extension of the current government's practice of using public money to reduce the financial overheads of the business sector. It is similar to the measures quietly introduced by the government to provide forced labour for the 'big four' group of supermarkets - Tescos. Morrisons, Sainsburys and Asda from among those in receipt of benefits who will lose it unless they carry out 30 hours of unpaid work per week stacking shelves and cleaning even though benefit levels are about a third of the minimum wage. The business sector, and presumably the shareholders (who may or may not include MPs and members of the Cabinet) appear to be the principal beneficiaries of such a vast amount of free-unpaid and pressed labour. The Ministry of Justice has recently extended to 40 hours per week, the amount of time convicted prisoners are to work for private sector companies employed, inter alia, sewing mailbags and producing children's toys. I see a general pattern beginning to emerge in the Government's thinking.

    If the use of military manpower is a success, then I would not be at all surprised if, as is the practice in other countries, it is not rolled-out in other commercial areas of endeavour to the extent where it would not be uncommon to see soldiers being deployed, for example, to gather in the Summer Harvest!
    Sounds like communism...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Duke View Post
    But you presumably need to allow time for training and familiarisation beforehand? Best make that 3 to 4 weeks of which 2 will be over the games themselves.
    Dates for the Games:-

    Normal Games - 27/07/12 - 12/08/12
    Paralympic Games - 29/08/12 - 09/09/12

    A bit more than 2 weeks, your Grace!
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    Quote Originally Posted by elovabloke View Post
    Arn't there enough unemployed and troubled families out there that would like 6 weeks work.
    Hahahaha, good luck with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fezboy View Post
    Hit nail on head
    At least at the Olympics there would be adult leadership and a clear sense of purpose!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joker62 View Post
    Dates for the Games:-

    Normal Games - 27/07/12 - 12/08/12
    Paralympic Games - 29/08/12 - 09/09/12

    A bit more than 2 weeks, your Grace!
    I know, but StabtoReg was suggesting that one of the "plans" was for the TA to do two week blocks, with a series of 2 week blocks covering the whole games. My point was that for 2 weeks actually covering the games, you would still need 3 or even 4 weeks off work to include pre-event training once you allow for the military training course practice of cramming 4 hours of work into an 8 hour day!
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