ARmy Rumour SErvice

**Yokel** · 23-12-2011, 12:36

Information Dissemination: Noteworthy Message Traffic

REPORTS FROM MARITIME FORCES AND COMMERCIAL MARITIME INTERESTS INDICATE CONCERN WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR LOCALIZED DISRUPTION TO SHIPPING IN CONJUNCTION WITH FUTURE IRANIAN NAVAL EXERCISES. DURING PREVIOUS EXERCISES IRANIAN MARITIME FORCES CONDUCTED BOARDINGS AND INSPECTIONS OF MERCHANT SHIPS, INCLUDING THOSE FLAGGED TO EUROPEAN NATIONS. THE POSSIBILITY EXISTS THAT IRAN WILL ATTEMPT TO CONDUCT BOARDINGS AND INSPECTIONS DURING EXERCISES BETWEEN DECEMBER 2011 AND MARCH 2012. THE MOST LIKELY LOCATION FOR THIS ACTIVITY WOULD BE IN THE VICINITY OF THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ, PARTICULARLY IN AREAS CLOSER TO IRANIAN TERRITORIAL WATERS.

**Goatman** · 29-06-2012, 15:14

Old thread resurrection shuffle.....

First they said it hadn't happened

Then they said it was faked

Then they said it couldn't be done

Then some good old boys in Austin ,Tx went and just did it.....

BBC News - Researchers use spoofing to 'hack' into a flying drone

Ah the Five O'Clock Follies.....they never stop....

**sunnoficarus** · 29-06-2012, 15:23

Ooooop!

**Biscuits_Brown** · 29-06-2012, 16:02

Oh the derision I endured about suggesting this may have been the case..... Arf!

**Charm_City** · 29-06-2012, 16:39

Todd Humphreys and his colleagues from hacked the GPS system of a drone belonging to the university.

They demonstrated the technique to DHS officials, using a mini helicopter drone, flown over a stadium in Austin,

Outstanding and heeya! Now operationalise it ......

**One_of_the_strange** · 29-06-2012, 20:59

Originally Posted by Charm_City

Outstanding and heeya! Now operationalise it ......

If they demoed it then they just did. Not everyone needs to gold plate their kit so that it will be out of date by the time it gets fielded. It doesn't matter if its held together with solder and duct tape as long as it works the one time it's needed.

**Charm_City** · 29-06-2012, 21:06

Originally Posted by One_of_the_strange

If they demoed it then they just did. Not everyone needs to gold plate their kit so that it will be out of date by the time it gets fielded. It doesn't matter if its held together with solder and duct tape as long as it works the one time it's needed.

They've proved they can attack civ GPS on a drone they own - milspec might just be a little harder.

**Cable_Ties** · 29-06-2012, 21:07

Originally Posted by One_of_the_strange

If they demoed it then they just did. Not everyone needs to gold plate their kit so that it will be out of date by the time it gets fielded. It doesn't matter if its held together with solder and duct tape as long as it works the one time it's needed.

Well, it does matter if it's held together with solder and duct tape (prefer black nasty myself). BDR is just that. BDR. A quick fix and off you go but don't whine if you break down 5 miles down the road.

The one time you need kit to work as described means you need a more permanent solution...therefore a bit more than solder, duct tape (still prefer black nasty), chewing gum and/or string.

**CivvyPete** · 30-06-2012, 08:45

Hey - guess what - the reason we have civvy GPS is that we piggyback signals originally designed for the military - civvy kit just can't decrypt the last couple of digits to limit its accuracy. If this group effectively spoof GPS data, the odds are it will work on military systems. Note that they didn't hack the secure control downlink. I guess this confirms how Iran did it.

This does raise a serious question tho - for the last few years everyone has been crowing "manned flight is dead".

They did the same in the sixties when remote controlled missiles were seen as the be all and end al of military aviation for a while.

Only last week BAe announced their latest effort - BBC News - Trial flights of 'unmanned' aircraft begin in UK skies (Was Nimrod scrapped for that?)

Now, suddenly, one massive foundation of UAV ops has been shown to be vulnerable.

Come back Crabs all is forgiven?

**Rawhide** · 30-06-2012, 10:01

The BAE Systems Jetstream, which will be manned during the test phase, could potentially conduct search missions and investigate weather systems

Fucking brilliant, bleeding edge technology being used to investigate weather systems, what is there to investigate?

But fear not, on the same news page:

BBC News - BAE Systems' Navsop navigation system rivals GPS

BAE Systems' Navsop navigation system rivals GPS