ARmy Rumour SErvice

**Zemlyak** · 01-06-2010, 19:41

Seems as though you don't even have to turn up:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8709517.stm

And in case a certain person responds, I know it happens in Ukraine's Parliament as well, in between getting egged.

**Domovoy** · 01-06-2010, 19:51

Originally Posted by Zemlyak

Seems as though you don't even have to turn up:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8709517.stm

And in case a certain person responds, I know it happens in Ukraine's Parliament as well, in between getting egged.

:D

It happens in any and every parliament, at least Ukrainian one was fun to watch.

**KGB_resident** · 01-06-2010, 20:20

Well BBC is absolutely correct with this observation.

However, there are 650 MPs in the UK but apparently there are no enough chairs for all of them. But why? Why not to have a big hall as in Russian parliament?

**bullet_catcher** · 01-06-2010, 20:31

Originally Posted by KGB_resident

Well BBC is absolutely correct with this observation.

However, there are 650 MPs in the UK but apparently there are no enough chairs for all of them. But why? Why not to have a big hall as in Russian parliament?

If you make people stand at meetings, they tend to reach decisions quickly. The chairs are for the ones with big bellies who might crush someone if they fell over.

**Zemlyak** · 02-06-2010, 05:58

Originally Posted by KGB_resident

Well BBC is absolutely correct with this observation.

However, there are 650 MPs in the UK but apparently there are no enough chairs for all of them. But why? Why not to have a big hall as in Russian parliament?

Tradition, old boy. And you'd never get the extension past the planners.

Apparently, I understand some MPs think it's better like it is to get the 'intimate' bear pit atmosphere. In anycase, if it could house all the MPs it would look even emptier on a normal working day.

KGB: Do Russian deputies get immunity for being Duma members? I presume this is why many of them try and get into politics.

**seaweed** · 02-06-2010, 07:56

KGB, the H of Commons was gutted by a bomb during WW2. When it was to be rebuilt Churchill said it should not have seats for everyone to stop it looking too empty when not all MPs were there. But at least MPs have to vote with their actual bodies still, and have to scramble down in person to the H of C when the Division bells sound.

**KGB_resident** · 02-06-2010, 10:24

Originally Posted by bullet_catcher

Originally Posted by KGB_resident

Well BBC is absolutely correct with this observation.

However, there are 650 MPs in the UK but apparently there are no enough chairs for all of them. But why? Why not to have a big hall as in Russian parliament?

If you make people stand at meetings, they tend to reach decisions quickly. The chairs are for the ones with big bellies who might crush someone if they fell over.

I haven't seen MPs standing as a crowd in the Parliament. They even don't bother to attend hearings and vote (mainly) according to directives issued by their parties.

In this respect there is no big difference beween Russian and British parliaments.

Originally Posted by Zemlyak

Originally Posted by KGB_resident

Well BBC is absolutely correct with this observation.

However, there are 650 MPs in the UK but apparently there are no enough chairs for all of them. But why? Why not to have a big hall as in Russian parliament?

Tradition, old boy. And you'd never get the extension past the planners.

Apparently, I understand some MPs think it's better like it is to get the 'intimate' bear pit atmosphere. In anycase, if it could house all the MPs it would look even emptier on a normal working day.

KGB: Do Russian deputies get immunity for being Duma members? I presume this is why many of them try and get into politics.

Yes, they have the immunity and it is a very attractive feature, especially for crooked 'businessmen'.

Originally Posted by seaweed

KGB, the H of Commons was gutted by a bomb during WW2. When it was to be rebuilt Churchill said it should not have seats for everyone to stop it looking too empty when not all MPs were there. But at least MPs have to vote with their actual bodies still, and have to scramble down in person to the H of C when the Division bells sound.

Yes, it is a serious distinction.

In the UK most MPs are unable to attend hearings and vote (of course personally) as their parties order.

In Russia the MPs are able to attend hearings but must not vote personally. Representatives of their parties vote for those who are absent.

However the result is the same. The majority of MPs are unaware what they vote about and don't take part in discussions.

**Zemlyak** · 02-06-2010, 12:09

Originally Posted by KGB_resident

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However the result is the same. The majority of MPs are unaware what they vote about and don't take part in discussions.

Seems like a few seats round a table for those that do attend is all that's needed. May as well do away with the deputies' chamber.

Whilst, googling I did note a couple of Youtube vids of punch ups in the Duma, one of which the ever vocal Zhirinovsky took part in. He did get floored tho' as the guy he took on was a karate expert. No eggs were thrown tho'.

**DrunkenIrish** · 02-06-2010, 12:20

Originally Posted by KGB_resident

In the UK most MPs are unable to attend hearings and vote (of course personally) as their parties order.

In Russia the MPs are able to attend hearings but must not vote personally. Representatives of their parties vote for those who are absent.

However the result is the same. The majority of MPs are unaware what they vote about and don't take part in discussions.

You do get a few MPs who actually have the balls to vote against their party on occasion (as well as the hard right/left nutters).