Thread: Srebrenica? There are too many gays in the Dutch army.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8575717.stm

Dutch officials have rejected a retired US general's claim that its forces failed at Srebrenica because of poor morale over openly gay soldiers.
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Gen Sheehan had been speaking at a US Senate hearing on allowing gay people to serve openly in the US military.

He said Dutch leaders had told him that the presence of gay soldiers had contributed to the Bosnian massacre.
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Gen Sheehan said the former chief of staff of the Dutch army had told him that the presence of openly gay soldiers in the Dutch peacekeeping force were seen as "part of the problem" which contributed to the fall of Srebrenica.

He argued that since the end of the Cold War, European militaries had changed and he concluded "there was no longer a need for an active combat capability".

How would it be commented in the Soviet mass media

Headline: Moral decay of capitalist system leads to a corruption of NATO armies.

Now, even high ranked representatives of NATO countries recognize the realities. Recently, decorated American general Sheehan described the Dutch army as overcrowded by homosexuals and thus helpless and useless. Dutch working class is not eager to serve to corrupted capitalist elite and to take part in aggressive adventures of Washington’s hawks. In this situation, Dutch puppets of American imperialists resort to recruit drug takers, criminals and even homosexuals as ‘soldiers’. But it is not a cause to relax. Under the leadership of the Communist party our warriors are ready to stop this criminal gang and to defend the ideals of socialism, our allies and friends.

I think spineless dutch politicians had more to do with it then a few g@ys...

Too right every dutch female soldier I've tried to chat up has fucked me off, bloody lesbians. (this also applies to nearly every other female Ive met)

A ridiculous assumption used to support his not very well hidden bigotry.

The yanks two greatest military allies Britain and Israel have gays openly serving in their armies. With no problems. Does the general question their testicular fortitude?

What an idiot.

Am glad the Senate are seeking and probably employ a balanced view.
I bet the Senate panel thanked him for his experienced point of view and asked for that Son-of-a-Bitch Faggot to come in next and testify.

Total cunt.

Speaking from the early 1970s, General Sheehan claimed that Dutch gays had been distracted from their duties by their desires to redecorate their HQ, bake quiches and call out 'Ooh, get her, girls' at OPFOR.

"Mincing about in pink trousers and flowery shirts would ruin US morale" insisted the General. "We should base our recruitment on attracting manly, strong soldiers in the Rock Hudson mould, men who look good swimming naked in the creek by moonlight, not these fellows in lacy pink panties"

i just read this and thought it was one of the most ridiculous claims i have ever read. i shared a camp with those same dutch forces, arriving just a few weeks after srebrenica. i had many dutch friends from the dutch transport company, and never heard any mention of this rubbish.

and by the way, never noticed any serious morale problems with the dutch either - let alone over any gay soldiers serving with them. morale was sky high, they were extremely well-paid national servicemen on excellent contracts (far better paid than us). the only issues i saw were a) bitterness and embarrassment over lack of support, leading to fall of srebrenica and b) one lad shot himself the morning he was supposed to go on R&R, because he didn't want to go home to his wife.

Originally Posted by Pigshyt_Freeman

Speaking from the early 1970s, General Sheehan claimed that Dutch gays had been distracted from their duties by their desires to redecorate their HQ, bake quiches and call out 'Ooh, get her, girls' at OPFOR.

"Mincing about in pink trousers and flowery shirts would ruin US morale" insisted the General. "We should base our recruitment on attracting manly, strong soldiers in the Rock Hudson mould, men who look good swimming naked in the creek by moonlight, not these fellows in lacy pink panties"

It this quote is accurate, surely he is hoisted by his own petard? How gay is that comment?

Just when you thought there couldn't be any more bullsh1t piled on the Srebrenica story...

Quite apart from the fact that the absence of a few gays is somewhat unlikely to have increased the capability of a lightly armed sub-strength battalion to have stood up to a mechanised brigade, General Sheehan seems oblivious to the fact that Dutch culture is different to that of the USA and that this has been a non-issue for quite a long time. I'm the last bloke to go in for knee-jerk anti-Americanism, but on this one I'm thankful that I live in Europe.

Originally Posted by CRmeansCeilingReached

i just read this and thought it was one of the most ridiculous claims i have ever read. i shared a camp with those same dutch forces, arriving just a few weeks after srebrenica. i had many dutch friends from the dutch transport company, and never heard any mention of this rubbish.

and by the way, never noticed any serious morale problems with the dutch either - let alone over any gay soldiers serving with them. morale was sky high, they were extremely well-paid national servicemen on excellent contracts (far better paid than us). the only issues i saw were a) bitterness and embarrassment over lack of support, leading to fall of srebrenica and b) one lad shot himself the morning he was supposed to go on R&R, because he didn't want to go home to his wife.

Wonder if something was contributing to that...................... :P

Met lots of Cloggies in Bosnia and they were good blokes, all willing to do a good job. This blokes talking arrse

Originally Posted by Crunchie

Originally Posted by CRmeansCeilingReached

i just read this and thought it was one of the most ridiculous claims i have ever read. i shared a camp with those same dutch forces, arriving just a few weeks after srebrenica. i had many dutch friends from the dutch transport company, and never heard any mention of this rubbish.

and by the way, never noticed any serious morale problems with the dutch either - let alone over any gay soldiers serving with them. morale was sky high, they were extremely well-paid national servicemen on excellent contracts (far better paid than us). the only issues i saw were a) bitterness and embarrassment over lack of support, leading to fall of srebrenica and b) one lad shot himself the morning he was supposed to go on R&R, because he didn't want to go home to his wife.

Wonder if something was contributing to that...................... :P

Met lots of Cloggies in Bosnia and they were good blokes, all willing to do a good job. This blokes talking arrse

Snigger..............................

To be honest its not much of a surprise analysis is it. This report says it all...

YouTube Clip - Is the Navy dangerously Gay?

After all Gays muck about and distract people, they nudge people when they are shooting...

What a load of toss. The man's a cretin.

Speaking of cretins, I wonder if arrse's very own turbulent priest is monitoring this thread?

Originally Posted by slipperman

Originally Posted by Pigshyt_Freeman

Speaking from the early 1970s, General Sheehan claimed that Dutch gays had been distracted from their duties by their desires to redecorate their HQ, bake quiches and call out 'Ooh, get her, girls' at OPFOR.

"Mincing about in pink trousers and flowery shirts would ruin US morale" insisted the General. "We should base our recruitment on attracting manly, strong soldiers in the Rock Hudson mould, men who look good swimming naked in the creek by moonlight, not these fellows in lacy pink panties"

It this quote is accurate, surely he is hoisted by his own petard? How gay is that comment?

You don't do satire then?

Originally Posted by Kropotkin

Originally Posted by slipperman

Originally Posted by Pigshyt_Freeman

Speaking from the early 1970s, General Sheehan claimed that Dutch gays had been distracted from their duties by their desires to redecorate their HQ, bake quiches and call out 'Ooh, get her, girls' at OPFOR.

"Mincing about in pink trousers and flowery shirts would ruin US morale" insisted the General. "We should base our recruitment on attracting manly, strong soldiers in the Rock Hudson mould, men who look good swimming naked in the creek by moonlight, not these fellows in lacy pink panties"

It this quote is accurate, surely he is hoisted by his own petard? How gay is that comment?

You don't do satire then?

The Americans normally don't!