Thread: Is US an aggressive, militaristic, and imperialistic power?

Our friend Ghost_us quoted in his thoughtfull post this phrase

the United States is an aggressive, militaristic, and imperialistic power.

Do you agree that it is true?

Originally Posted by KGB_resident

Our friend Ghost_us quoted in his thoughtfull post this phrase

the United States is an aggressive, militaristic, and imperialistic power.

Do you agree that it is true?

No, go away you bore, call bugsy for coffee.

Is option 4 Police or Policy?
Aggressive,yes,sometimes but often relies on diplomacy.
Militaristic,what with all the hippys and CO's,you're having a laugh.
Imperialistic?They put up with so much bollox from tin-pot Hitlers like CHAVez,again you're having a laugh Septics ok

Oh come on, Sergey.

Same old shit and utterly nonsensical options.........

Blow a different trumpet.

As a American my answer is HELL YES we are!

Aggresive
Yep you mess with us and well come halfway across the planet just to mess you up.

Militaristic
Have you seen the size of are defense budget?

Imperialistic
Yep were democratic imperialists to the core we intented to conquer the world for democracy.

You arnt implying any of the above is wrong are you?

Why stop there comrade? Surely these folks want to see the rest of what I said,no?

I would say that you have indeed posted in line with goal #2.

I simply suggested that you are perhaps one of said agents listed below. No need to subvert the messenger or the message. We are among friends and I'm sorry if this puts a spotlight on your activities.

Originally Posted by ghost_us

Crash Course in KGB/SVR/FSB Disinformation and Active Measures

"On the other hand -- and this is the other side of the Soviet intelligence, very important: perhaps I would describe it as the heart and soul of the Soviet intelligence -- was subversion. Not intelligence collection, but subversion: active measures to weaken the West, to drive wedges in the Western community alliances of all sorts, particularly NATO, to sow discord among allies, to weaken the United States in the eyes of the people of Europe, Asia, Africa, Latin America, and thus to prepare ground in case the war really occurs. To make America more vulnerable to the anger and distrust of other peoples."

Quote:
"In that sense, the Soviet intelligence [was] really unparalleled. ... The [KGB] programs -- which would run all sorts of congresses, peace congresses, youth congresses, festivals, women's movements, trade union movements, campaigns against U.S. missiles in Europe, campaigns against neutron weapons, allegations that AIDS ... was invented by the CIA ... all sorts of forgeries and faked material -- [were] targeted at politicians, the academic community, at [the] public at large."

"It was really a worldwide campaign, often not only sponsored and funded, but conducted and manipulated by the KGB. And this was again part and parcel of this campaign to weaken [the] military, economic and psychological climate in the West."...

The below goals of Soviet Communist disinformation and active measures was published 22 years ago in "Dezinformatsia: Active Measures in Soviet Strategy" by Richard Shultz and Roy Godson, 1984, page 44. It is interesting to note how certain groups and organizations (influenced by foreign intelligence services or other foreign entities?) in today's world continue these goals against the US.

1. To influence America, European and world public opinion to believe that US military and political policies are the major cause of international conflict and crisis.
2. To demonstrate that the United States is an aggressive, militaristic, and imperialistic power.
3. To isolate the United States from its friends and allies, and to discredit those states which cooperate with the United States.
4. To discredit US military and intelligence establishments.
5. To demonstrate that the policies and objectives of the United States are incompatible with those of the under-developed nations.
6. To confuse world public opinion concerning Soviet global ambitions, creating a favorable environment for Soviet foreign policy.

KGB active measures techniques included the use of agents of influence, forgeries, covert media placements, and controlled media to covertly introduce carefully crafted arguments, information, disinformation, and slogans into the discourse in government, media, religious, business, economic, and public arenas in targeted countries. These operations were characterized as "black" because the Soviet role was totally concealed. These KGB operations were carried out by members of line PR (political intelligence) in Soviet residencies, the KGB units in Soviet embassies in foreign countries. According to Gordievsky, line PR officers were supposed to spend about 25 percent of their time on active measures operations.

Originally Posted by Siddar

As a American my answer is HELL YES we are!

Aggresive
Yep you mess with us and well come halfway across the planet just to mess you up.

Militaristic
Have you seen the size of are defense budget?

Imperialistic
Yep were democratic imperialists to the core we intented to conquer the world for democracy.

You arnt implying any of the above is wrong are you?

God no!!! Heaven forbid.

However, if you want to be viewed with any credibility, might I suggest you improve your command of the written ENGLISH word?

A few commas and apostrophes might help.

It's amazing what you will read when you are bored on night shift.

Originally Posted by sapperbraindead

Is option 4 Police or Policy?
Aggressive,yes,sometimes but often relies on diplomacy.
Militaristic,what with all the hippys and CO's,you're having a laugh.
Imperialistic?They put up with so much bollox from tin-pot Hitlers like CHAVez,again you're having a laugh Septics ok

Oooops! Oh my poor English. Of course I meant policy. But now it looks as a game of words.

On a separate note I would like to add that some elements of both Russian police and policy are aggressive.

How the Soviets put the communist party into power in other countries.

Part 1,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlkPkJInUmU

Part 2,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?vIFcnctnHsE

Stop worrying about the US KGB and start taking a proper look to your South East. I think you might notice something to worry about.

Originally Posted by ghost_us

Why stop there comrade? Surely these folks want to see the rest of what I said,no?

I would say that you have indeed posted in line with goal #2.

I simply suggested that you are perhaps one of said agents listed below. No need to subvert the messenger or the message. We are among friends and I'm sorry if this puts a spotlight on your activities.

Mate, we are among our friends who have brains and are able to elaborate own views, to analyse facts, to make conclusions.

The Soviet union collapsed almost 20 years ago but still World public opinion is not 100% positive toward the USA, far from it. But what is the main cause? Activity of the propaganda or the American policy?

Am I an 'agent' as you mean? In real life - no. But why not to play this role here? It would be funny to comment Current Events exactly in style of Soviet propaganda. And I'm well aware about its methods, wording and so on.

Just wait.

If only it was more aggressive, militaristic and imperialistic, it might do a better job of being global hegemon...

Is US an aggressive, militaristic, and imperialistic power? On balance of probabilities, not - although it does display some traits of all of these.

Has it behaved in an 'aggressive, militaristic, and imperialistic' fashion at time. Hell, yes. Very few countries haven't and then mainly because they didn't have the opportunity.

Does the US attract more flak than any other country? Nah. Nowhere near. Look at the pummelling in the public opinion stakes the likes of Milosevic's Serbia, Saddam's Iraq, Iran and North Korea got/get.

It does set itself higher than any other nation and is judged accordingly. If you go around telling everyone that you're the last best hope for humanity, you ought to expect a wee bit of critical analysis of your behaviour as a matter of routine.

Originally Posted by smartascarrots

Is US an aggressive, militaristic, and imperialistic power? On balance of probabilities, not - although it does display some traits of all of these.

Has it behaved in an 'aggressive, militaristic, and imperialistic' fashion at time. Hell, yes. Very few countries haven't and then mainly because they didn't have the opportunity.

Does the US attract more flak than any other country? Nah. Nowhere near. Look at the pummelling in the public opinion stakes the likes of Milosevic's Serbia, Saddam's Iraq, Iran and North Korea got/get.

It does set itself higher than any other nation and is judged accordingly. If you go around telling everyone that you're the last best hope for humanity, you ought to expect a wee bit of critical analysis of your behaviour as a matter of routine.

Spot on. If anyone would care to look at Bush's 8 months prior to 9/11, it is possible to argue that he was returning America to a semi-isolationist position regarding Foreign Policy. After the Clinton humanitarian interventions of the '90s, all Bush cared for was to allow the world to run itself, and when major issues arose that concerned the US strategic interest, to intervene. However, once 9/11 did occur, the Executive hired a bucketful of neo-conservatives and everything went a bit Pete Tong.

Yes, and the worst aspect is that UK gets dragged in on the pretext of our Special Relationship ie same as an owner/poodle relationship