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**Command_doh** · 10-02-2010, 08:55

Where is the link to this 'new' story? At a time when there is talk of a mass cull of civil servants, creating 1000 'new' posts would appear to be somewhat difficult to believe.

**Markintime** · 10-02-2010, 09:32

Originally Posted by Command_doh

Where is the link to this 'new' story? At a time when there is talk of a mass cull of civil servants, creating 1000 'new' posts would appear to be somewhat difficult to believe.

Not really, it's just New Labour sleight of hand. Announce big cuts so everyone thinks you're doing your bit then create a whole new entity to employ those you've laid off. You can bet that the biggest part of any regeneration force would be administration and who better to do that than ex-civil servants?

It is interesting that the thinking behind forming a regeneration force must be that the overwhelming Foreign policy must be aggression. If you intend to base future conflict on defence and/or liberation then it's unlikely that the infrastructure of the country will be so destroyed that it cannot organise its own regeneration. Invaded countries usually have a government in exile with very distinct ideas of what shape the liberated country would take. It is only when you invade a country and destroy its existing infrastructure that you would need to rebuild or replace it so, based on that, is it fair to assume that this Government sees more aggressive interventions to effect regime change on the horizon, is it paving the way to move into Iran for instance?
Speaking for myself I'd much sooner see our own Defence Medical capability restored to pre 1990 levels with perhaps the augmentation of two airportable field hospitals and two RE field support squadrons to provide key trade support to get services working quickly and build an airhead, used to meet disasters such as Haiti or, in times of conflict, to go where needed.

**asr1** · 10-02-2010, 09:35

Originally Posted by Command_doh

Where is the link to this 'new' story? At a time when there is talk of a mass cull of civil servants, creating 1000 'new' posts would appear to be somewhat difficult to believe.

The posts aren't full time - these guys are contractors who will only be paid when they are deployed.

**Markintime** · 10-02-2010, 09:49

Originally Posted by asr1

Originally Posted by Command_doh

Where is the link to this 'new' story? At a time when there is talk of a mass cull of civil servants, creating 1000 'new' posts would appear to be somewhat difficult to believe.

The posts aren't full time - these guys are contractors who will only be paid when they are deployed.

Except for the administration 'element' who will be tasked with maintaining manning levels, availability and feathering their own nests.

**Neuroleptic** · 10-02-2010, 10:00

Originally Posted by lady-fingers

Originally Posted by Neuroleptic

Originally Posted by Scabbers

Originally Posted by lady-fingers

Brilliant Idea, gordon is my man...

Erm Lady-Fingers....you're already irritating ARRSERs with your illiterate howling about 15 year old soldiers.

Be good girl and run along to Nursie. Medication time.

Mods O2 tag methinks.

My God, someone with differing opinions on ARRSE! And possibly a woman to boot! The rot set in when they gave them the vote if you ask me.

Personally speaking, I'm with you. I don't want my world view challenged and look forward to reading many more 20+ page threads where everyone says basically the same thing again and again for some reason. They'll be wanting grown up discussions next!

Are you that hero come to save me? if not then its okay, but please do also check out the abuse they have posted on my other thread. I mean i got feelings too you know...

No sorry, I've not come to "save" anyone. I just find myself reading this thread (and others) with a rapidly slackening jaw as I stare at what passes for discussion of the issues on ARRSE recently. Witness for instance the fact that the use of the term "social workers" in the title does not appear remotely relevant to the story it links to. Despite that, it doesn't stop people rushing to their garden shed or garage and pulling out one of their favourite hobby horses. So, what is essentially an item about counter-insurgency strategy that would have been familiar to people who served in Malaya becomes a social services bashing frenzy.

**BrandySoured** · 10-02-2010, 10:09

It is truly a shame Social Workers are not going. Bayonet practice springs to mind.

'king parasites.

**REgards** · 10-02-2010, 10:20

Originally Posted by vvaannmmaann

General election propaganda?

Not a chance - your average joe couldn't give two shites about reconstructing another country. As it appears this organisation has been around for the last few years in one form or another I would have thought this announcement was made to counter some of the inevitable 'lessons to be learned' to fall out from the Chilcott Enquiry.
As Wedge pointed out we (the Royal we) c0cked it up good and proper in Iraq. We invaded, then spent our time fighting off a growing insurgency. For the Iraqi civillian on the ground, no improvement in quality of life was seen. With a proper infrastructure reconstruction plan in place this wouldn't have happened (in my opinion). If the locals are happy with what the coalition had done insurgency wouldn't have got such an effective foothold as the locals would not have harboured or supported them.

**Neuroleptic** · 10-02-2010, 10:45

Originally Posted by BrandySoured

It is truly a shame Social Workers are not going. Bayonet practice springs to mind.

'king parasites.

I assume you're wahing here, and I really shouldn't go off thread, but...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...n-1889208.html

If a slagging off is in order, we should try to do it with more than the one watt bulb 'fact' we got off the bloke in the pub.

**bomb-int** · 10-02-2010, 10:50

Social workers to operate alongside the Army - they have for years under the name of Platoon Sgt

**Markintime** · 10-02-2010, 10:52

Originally Posted by Neuroleptic

Originally Posted by BrandySoured

It is truly a shame Social Workers are not going. Bayonet practice springs to mind.

'king parasites.

I assume you're wahing here, and I really shouldn't go off thread, but...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...n-1889208.html

If a slagging off is in order, we should try to do it with more than the one watt bulb 'fact' we got off the bloke in the pub.

Thanks for that link, that truly is good news, a pity it hasn't been more loudly trumpeted. In fact I'm amazed that this Government haven't tried to claim all the glory for it.