Thread: Royal Navy, take note...
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05-02-2010, 17:27 #1
Royal Navy, take note...
This is how you are meant to act:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8500611.stmDanish troops 'storm ship captured by Somali pirates'
Danish special forces have stormed a ship captured by Somali pirates and freed 25 crew members, an EU naval spokesman said in Nairobi.
Cdr John Harbour told the Associated Press news agency it was the first time a warship had intervened after pirates boarded a vessel.
Troops in inflatable dinghies moved in after a distress signal from the Antigua and Barbuda-flagged Ariella.
It is not clear if the pirates left the ship before the troops arrived.
The special forces, who set out from a Danish warship in the area, scaled the side of the ship and freed the 25 crew members, who had locked themselves in a secure room, Cdr Harbour said.
Troops were continuing to search the vessel for the pirates, he added...The harder the fighting and the longer the war, the more the infantry and in fact all the arms, lean on the Gunners - Field Marshal Montgomery.
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05-02-2010, 17:32 #2
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Originally Posted by Recce19
fcuk off
If Iraq was such a threat to everyones national security why did only take two f**kin weeks to take over the whole country!
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05-02-2010, 17:35 #3
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Bit of a different situation to the Chandlers:
"Warships typically do not intervene in hijackings because of the danger that crews may be hit by crossfire, the spokesman pointed out.
But forces were able to intervene in this case because the ship had registered with naval authorities, was travelling along a recommended transit corridor and was part of a group transit, ensuring the ships had a helicopter within 30 minutes' reaction time."
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05-02-2010, 19:10 #4Senior Member
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Re: Royal Navy, take note...
How is this story related in any way to the RN and the old couple that got kidnapped (the point of your badly thought out post, I assume?)
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05-02-2010, 19:12 #5
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Presumably by contrasting the way the Danes got stuck in and we (allegedly) sat back and watched.
Originally Posted by jimmys_best_mate
MSR‘Good God!’ he laughed, and slowly filled his pipe,
Wondering ‘why he always talked such tripe’.
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05-02-2010, 19:18 #6
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That's pretty much it. However, it wasn't me who brought the old couple into it. I was more thinking of the general piracy, rather than individual cases.
Originally Posted by msr
I know the RN are tied by their R.O.E. and maybe this could highlight a better way of dealing with the problem.The harder the fighting and the longer the war, the more the infantry and in fact all the arms, lean on the Gunners - Field Marshal Montgomery.
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05-02-2010, 19:23 #7Senior Member
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The report posted says that SF secured the ship - I may be wrong but I don't think the RFA are famous for their SF training.
Originally Posted by msr
It also says that the ship was in a registered convoy and so a warship with helicopter was close by - not the situation with that couple.
Personally if it was me being kidnapped by pirates the last thing I'd want is some untrained, trigger happy sailor brassing the boat they were taking me away in with a Minigun. I definitely wouldn't want untrained sailors, whether RN or RFA, attempting to board my ship and rescue me since it's not all that likely to end well.
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05-02-2010, 19:34 #8Senior Member
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Re: Royal Navy, take note...
Not surprising that it was the Danes. It is my understanding that their naval head, Rear Admiral Wang has expressed concerns about the piracy issues.
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05-02-2010, 19:35 #9
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Royal Navy take note of what? From the BBC website:
Nato troops free ship off Somalia after pirate attack
Not quite the daring exploit it first appeared but well done to them, anyway. Every bit helps.
Originally Posted by BBC News
In 1953 the UK Defence Budget was 11.3% of GDP. By 1966 it had been reduced to 6.6%. In 2011 it is hovering around 2%. Good job we're no longer expected to fight any wars, isn't it?
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05-02-2010, 19:38 #10
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Then again if I said to the wife lets chuck it all in and buy a boat and go sailing
Originally Posted by jimmys_best_mate
Sailing round the coast of Somallia probably wouldn't even be in the top 200 destinations
Silly old tw4ts deserve everything they getWe should remember the tremendous contribution of the Queen Mother to the war effort:
As the BBC pointed out, she 'bravely remained in London beside her husband' during the war.
This contrasts sharply with the actions of my grandfather who, on the declaration of war immediately left his wife and children and pissed off, first to France, then North Africa, Italy, France (again) and finally Germany.
The shame will always be with us.
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05-02-2010, 19:43 #11
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To be fair, it was hardly round the coast of Somalia: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multime...-1_635317a.jpg
Originally Posted by the_boy_syrup
‘Good God!’ he laughed, and slowly filled his pipe,
Wondering ‘why he always talked such tripe’.
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05-02-2010, 19:55 #12
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Anybody want to go halves for a minigun?
http://www.somalicruises.com/
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05-02-2010, 20:05 #13
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Unfair. The Chandlers made every effort to avoid going within 1,000 nm of Puntland, the most dangerous bit of the Somali Coast (Daily Mail link):
Originally Posted by the_boy_syrup
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The Seychelles, where the couple was hijacked, are the same distance from the Somali coast as Majorca is from Dover (700 nm). Even Iceland is only 450 nm from mainland UK. Incidentally, between Somalia and Tanzania where the couple was bound, there's a 'little' country called Kenya although it's hidden by a label. When kidnapped, they were heading south west towards the Amirante Islands, not due west as indicated on the chart. Considering the tens of thousands of merchant ships, cruise ships, coasters, dhows, trawlers, motor cruisers, yachts and other vessels that ply the Indian Ocean each day, their odds of escaping intact were probably better than if they'd had a night out in the West End. They were just exceptionally unlucky on this occasion.
If you are ever interested in sailing in the Seychelles, Sunsail is offering bareboat and skippered yacht charter holidays in this ‘paradise on earth’ (link)
Originally Posted by Sunsail website
In 1953 the UK Defence Budget was 11.3% of GDP. By 1966 it had been reduced to 6.6%. In 2011 it is hovering around 2%. Good job we're no longer expected to fight any wars, isn't it?
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05-02-2010, 20:15 #14
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If only it were real!!
Originally Posted by TASO09
I tend to think of myself as a one man wolf pack. Though when my sister brought Doug home I knew he was one of my own. And my wolf pack, it grew by one. So there was two of us in the wolf pack. And six months ago when Doug introduced me to you guys, I thought: "wait a second could it be?", and now I know for sure I just added two more guys to my wolf pack. Four of us wolves running around the desert together in Las Vegas, looking for strippers and cocaine.
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05-02-2010, 20:19 #15
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I stand corrected apologies
Originally Posted by Dunservin
I shall write to my M.P. demanding the S.A.S are despatched straight awayWe should remember the tremendous contribution of the Queen Mother to the war effort:
As the BBC pointed out, she 'bravely remained in London beside her husband' during the war.
This contrasts sharply with the actions of my grandfather who, on the declaration of war immediately left his wife and children and pissed off, first to France, then North Africa, Italy, France (again) and finally Germany.
The shame will always be with us.
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