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Discuss Royal Navy, take note... at the Current Affairs, News and Analysis forum within the The Army Rumour Service website; http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...te-rabble.html What can you say.....harsh?, maybe.....but not way off the mark - not the Navys ...
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    Re: Royal Navy, take note...

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...te-rabble.html

    What can you say.....harsh?, maybe.....but not way off the mark - not the Navys fault clearly, but Labour's Human Rights Act of 1997 and probably will be Harriet Habidons Equality Bill thats going through right now

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    Re: Royal Navy, take note...

    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaDog
    Quote Originally Posted by TASO09
    Anybody want to go halves for a minigun?
    http://www.somalicruises.com/
    If only it were real!!
    Seconded!

    As for the Thread: it was Danish SF who rescued the hostages. Not a bunch of sailors with only basic weapons training and no training at all in hostage rescue.

    Even Royal Marines would have been of little use in that situation, as the black arts of hostage rescue are not part of the Commando Course.

    Anyone here doubt that the Navy would like nothing better than to be allowed to use Somalia as one BFO firing range? Blame the politicians and international law for the p1ss-weak ROE, not the RN.
    Democracy is not for the people.

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    Re: Royal Navy, take note...

    Quote Originally Posted by Werewolf
    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaDog
    Quote Originally Posted by TASO09
    Anybody want to go halves for a minigun?
    http://www.somalicruises.com/
    If only it were real!!
    Seconded!

    As for the Thread: it was Danish SF who rescued the hostages. Not a bunch of sailors with only basic weapons training and no training at all in hostage rescue.

    Even Royal Marines would have been of little use in that situation, as the black arts of hostage rescue are not part of the Commando Course.

    Anyone here doubt that the Navy would like nothing better than to be allowed to use Somalia as one BFO firing range? Blame the politicians and international law for the p1ss-weak ROE, not the RN.
    "No captain can do very wrong if he places his ship alongside that of the enemy" Horatio Nelson

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    Re: Royal Navy, take note...

    Quote Originally Posted by tropper66
    "No captain can do very wrong if he places his ship alongside that of the enemy" Horatio Nelson
    Which fits in where, exactly, with regard to a boat load of innocent civilians being used as human shields by drugged-up, trigger-happy thugs?
    In 1953 the UK Defence Budget was 11.3% of GDP. By 1966 it had been reduced to 6.6%. In 2012 it is hovering around 2%. Good job we're no longer expected to fight any wars, isn't it?


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    Re: Royal Navy, take note...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dunservin
    Quote Originally Posted by tropper66
    "No captain can do very wrong if he places his ship alongside that of the enemy" Horatio Nelson
    Which fits in where, exactly, with regard to a boat load of innocent civilians being used as human shields by drugged-up, trigger-happy thugs?
    I take it you have not seen the photographs and video taken from the Wave Knight which is well armed with 2x Phalanx and 2 30mm BMARC guns

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    Re: Royal Navy, take note...

    Quote Originally Posted by tropper66
    Quote Originally Posted by Dunservin
    Quote Originally Posted by tropper66
    "No captain can do very wrong if he places his ship alongside that of the enemy" Horatio Nelson
    Which fits in where, exactly, with regard to a boat load of innocent civilians being used as human shields by drugged-up, trigger-happy thugs?
    I take it you have not seen the photographs and video taken from the Wave Knight which is well armed with 2x Phalanx and 2 30mm BMARC guns
    No I haven't. Link?
    In 1953 the UK Defence Budget was 11.3% of GDP. By 1966 it had been reduced to 6.6%. In 2012 it is hovering around 2%. Good job we're no longer expected to fight any wars, isn't it?


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    Re: Royal Navy, take note...

    Quote Originally Posted by tropper66
    Quote Originally Posted by Dunservin
    Quote Originally Posted by tropper66
    "No captain can do very wrong if he places his ship alongside that of the enemy" Horatio Nelson
    Which fits in where, exactly, with regard to a boat load of innocent civilians being used as human shields by drugged-up, trigger-happy thugs?
    I take it you have not seen the photographs and video taken from the Wave Knight which is well armed with 2x Phalanx and 2 30mm BMARC guns
    The question remains: what, exactly, was the Wave Knight supposed to do with all that firepower?

    IIRC, they did'nt reach the boat until after it had been boarded by the Somalians, so it's not as if they could have gotten their retaliation in first and shot fcuk out of the Skinnies before they grabbed the hostages. And once the Skinnies got their hands on the couple, all of Wave Knights weapons were effectively useless.
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    Re: Royal Navy, take note...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dunservin
    Quote Originally Posted by tropper66
    Quote Originally Posted by Dunservin
    Quote Originally Posted by tropper66
    "No captain can do very wrong if he places his ship alongside that of the enemy" Horatio Nelson
    Which fits in where, exactly, with regard to a boat load of innocent civilians being used as human shields by drugged-up, trigger-happy thugs?
    I take it you have not seen the photographs and video taken from the Wave Knight which is well armed with 2x Phalanx and 2 30mm BMARC guns
    No I haven't. Link?
    It appears to have been pulled and replaced with the crew of the Wave Knight doing ( wait for it ) Gun Drills, Google is your friend

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    Re: Royal Navy, take note...

    Quote Originally Posted by TASO09
    Anybody want to go halves for a minigun?
    http://www.somalicruises.com/

    i wonder if the boss would sign us up for adventure training????

    awesome

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    Re: Royal Navy, take note...

    Make no mistake, things don't always go the pirates' way. The warships on station have thwarted countless Somali pirate attacks with boarding paraphanalia and weapons either ditched or confiscated and pirates arrested if caught in the act. Like most good news involving RN and other warships it seems, such successes seldom make the headlines although some of them get reported:

    Royal Navy frigate, HMS Portland (F79) disarms suspected pirate skiffs
    Coalition Warship (HMS Campbeltown) Thwarts Pirate Attack in Arabian Sea
    Royal Navy (HMS Cumberland) in firefight with Somali pirates
    RFA Wave Knight Disrupts Pirate Attacks
    Canadian and British Ships Foil Pirate Attack
    Australian navy thwarts pirates attack, sends them packing
    US and Russian Navy Arrest 26 Somali Pirates
    Canadian warship thwarts Somali pirate attack
    Dutch navy arrests Somali pirates
    Greek warship stops halts pirates
    Saudi frigate thwarts pirate attack on ship
    Chinese warships thwart pirate attack off Somalia
    Royal Malaysian Navy thwarts pirate attack
    French Navy Thwarts Pirate Attack, 11 Pirates Captured
    Somali pirates arrested by Swedish navy forces
    Danish warship thwarts pirate attack on Chinese vessel in Gulf of Aden
    Portuguese frigate thwarts pirate attack
    Spanish capture 'Somali pirates'
    Indian Navy ship thwarts pirate attack on US tanker in Gulf
    EU naval mission thwarts pirate attack off Somalia
    Yemen says 4 Somali pirates arrested
    Yemen: eight Somali pirates arrested
    Somaliland: Pirates Arrested Near Berbera
    Four Somali pirates arrested
    Nine Somali pirates arrested in Gulf of Aden
    Five arrested Somali pirates in Dutch court
    Somali pirates arrested after failed attack on German tanker
    In 1953 the UK Defence Budget was 11.3% of GDP. By 1966 it had been reduced to 6.6%. In 2012 it is hovering around 2%. Good job we're no longer expected to fight any wars, isn't it?


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