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Originally Posted by goatbagthedruid

It appears that the Overseas Territories (less for Diego Garcia) are going to have to fend for themselves when we cut everything back.

Anyone for the Falklands???

GBTD

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Originally Posted by goatbagthedruid

It appears that the Overseas Territories (less for Diego Garcia) are going to have to fend for themselves when we cut everything back.

Anyone for the Falklands???

GBTD

Dont forget Gibraltar, the Isle of Wight, Anglesey, Rockall, the Hebrides, Shetland & the Orkneys. Brown would give them all away if he thought it would keep him in power a bit longer!!

Isle of Dogs? Stolen from the Cockneys and should be set free mate!

LINKY to Times Article.

LINKY to requirement for Falklands last time.

Summary 1982:

2 carriers
23 destroyers/ frigates
6 subs
13 other ships
22 RFA vessels
171 Sea Harriers/ helicopters

What we have now/ planned:

2 carriers
3 amphibious ships
2 subs total
12 destroyers/ frigates (only 7 in service)
16 RFA vessels

Also nothing in the foreword of the Defence Green Paper; they are at 1.2 of the Green:

The Government must ensure the territorial defence of the United Kingdom and our Overseas Territories; ensure our citizens can go about their business without fear; and contribute to our resilience against the range of natural and man-made challenges.

ANd a few other bit points later on.

GBTD

'Opeless Bob has nmade it quite clear in the Commons and in subsequent interviews - in the future the UK will not be able to take unilateral military action. In his mind (if that is not too much of an exageration) that means we can go so much further than just collaberating with our allies, we can decide which military capabilities we can dispense with and utilise others' because they can provide it cheaper/better.

I'm not quite sure what capabilities he has lined up, Do we dispense with our own armour because the Germans have better tanks, catering because the french and Italians do it so much better, Gunners because we hate our own?

We've seen how long it takes to pull our own forces together - the Chiefs have admitted that we really needed 6 months for Iraq. How long would it take to pull together all our allies for any expeditionary op? The training burden to iron out all the inter-operability issues will be enormous - this really is fantasy world politics.

Originally Posted by goatbagthedruid

LINKY to Times Article.

LINKY to requirement for Falklands last time.

Summary 1982:

2 carriers
23 destroyers/ frigates
6 subs
13 other ships
22 RFA vessels
171 Sea Harriers/ helicopters

What we have now/ planned:

2 carriers
3 amphibious ships
2 subs total
12 destroyers/ frigates (only 7 in service)
16 RFA vessels

Also nothing in the foreword of the Defence Green Paper; they are at 1.2 of the Green:

The Government must ensure the territorial defence of the United Kingdom and our Overseas Territories; ensure our citizens can go about their business without fear; and contribute to our resilience against the range of natural and man-made challenges.

ANd a few other bit points later on.

GBTD

Surely that can't be right?

Originally Posted by baboon6

Originally Posted by goatbagthedruid

LINKY to Times Article.

LINKY to requirement for Falklands last time.

Summary 1982:

2 carriers
23 destroyers/ frigates
6 subs
13 other ships
22 RFA vessels
171 Sea Harriers/ helicopters

What we have now/ planned:

2 carriers
3 amphibious ships
2 subs total
12 destroyers/ frigates (only 7 in service)
16 RFA vessels

Also nothing in the foreword of the Defence Green Paper; they are at 1.2 of the Green:

The Government must ensure the territorial defence of the United Kingdom and our Overseas Territories; ensure our citizens can go about their business without fear; and contribute to our resilience against the range of natural and man-made challenges.

ANd a few other bit points later on.

GBTD

Surely that can't be right?

No, it's miles off:

British Ships in the Falklands:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British..._Falklands_War

Royal Navy Today:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...yal_Navy_ships

Future Plans:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_the_Royal_Navy

Sorry for the wiki fest!

2 be fair argentina's in even worse case and we have an airbase with some typhoons on which sort of makes a sneak attack rather beyond the ability of the corned beef eating ones