ARmy Rumour SErvice

**meridian** · 03-02-2010, 12:49

To kick off the discussion

Its time for Private Tough Choices and Admiral Efficiency Savings to get on parade...

Download from here

http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/Ab...Discussion.htm

Key questions are

Given that domestic security cannot be separated from international security, where should we set the balance between focusing on our territory and region and engaging threats at a distance?

What approach should we take if we employ the Armed Forces to address threats at distance?

What contribution should the Armed Forces make in ensuring security and contributing to resilience within the UK?

How could we more effectively employ the Armed Forces in support of wider efforts to prevent conflict and strengthen international stability?

Do our current international defence and security relationships require rebalancing in the longer term?
Should we further integrate our forces with those of key allies and partners?

To what extent and in what areas should we continue to refocus our current efforts on Afghanistan?

**Herrumph** · 03-02-2010, 12:53

The Green Paper is setting out the stall for the future.

Defence of the realm is arguably the most important task of of Parliament.

Why then have our elected representatives de-camped for lunch leaving acres of empty green leather in the House?

**jagman** · 03-02-2010, 12:55

Originally Posted by Herrumph

The Green Paper is setting out the stall for the future.

Defence of the realm is arguably the most important task of of Parliament.

Why then have our elected representatives de-camped for lunch leaving acres of empty green leather in the House?

Because the slimey thieving cunts don't care.
As long as they get their slice of the financila pie at the country's expense nothing else matters to them.

**Mr_d** · 03-02-2010, 13:01

Page 32 para4.3

Our current relationships are mutually
reinforcing. NATO remains the cornerstone
of our security. However, as Europeans,
we must take greater responsibility for
our security together

Wow, so we are no longer British but now Europeans. Even the MOD are selling our national identity

**Magdovus** · 03-02-2010, 13:06

Originally Posted by Mr_d

Page 32 para4.3

Our current relationships are mutually
reinforcing. NATO remains the cornerstone
of our security. However, as Europeans,
we must take greater responsibility for
our security together

Wow, so we are no longer British but now Europeans. Even the MOD are selling our national identity

To be fair, they're way behind the rest of the Government... typical MOD really!

**brighton hippy** · 03-02-2010, 13:09

we seem to have given up the ability
to act on are own as too expensive.
so get into bed with euros or uncle sam.

personally I prefer the euro approach as we'd be allies rather than lackays

**Herrumph** · 03-02-2010, 13:22

I just counted 6 MPs on the Government benches inluding 'Opeless Bob on his feet.

There may be a few sleeping in the corners that I couldn't see. Opposition benches a little bit better.

Shameful

**fozzy** · 03-02-2010, 13:25

So, given that there will be an election by the early summer - and an SDR afterwards - what is the point of this paper?

Is it to feed the SDR?

**Walthamstow** · 03-02-2010, 13:29

It's a discussion paper - that's the purpose of Green Papers.

It's by no means an indication of future policy, and of course it's sensible to start the discussion as soon as possible.

**meridian** · 03-02-2010, 13:30

Originally Posted by Herrumph

I just counted 6 MPs on the Government benches inluding 'Opeless Bob on his feet.

There may be a few sleeping in the corners that I couldn't see. Opposition benches a little bit better.

Shameful

There are over 640 MP's

I count 8 Labour MP's