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    Given the number of MPs who have law degrees and legal backgrounds, I've always been amazed that a) governments bring in new laws rather than looking in the 'back catalogue' and seeing how many already have provision to be applied to the 'new' problem and b) how poorly written the laws are, which enables judges to rule against our governments. I appreciate that law is all about interpretation, but it is possible to be accurate and precise with language to the point that no interpretation can be reached other than that intended by the law makers.

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    If people grow up without being taught values, standard, right, wrong and are then turned out feral, well then all the laws in the world won't answer. Judge Dredd himself would be looking at an early retirement to Costa de Sol City 4.

    This government likes to play word-games with the law rather than do the right thing or accept responsibility for doing the wrong thing. Bring back Profumo. What, he's dead? Well bring him back anyway.

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    The one that makes me laugh is the fact that it's illegal to cause a nuclear explosion. Does this mean that, should the country find itself under nuclear attack, that it's illegal for the PM to order Trident to retaliate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magdovus
    The one that makes me laugh is the fact that it's illegal to cause a nuclear explosion. Does this mean that, should the country find itself under nuclear attack, that it's illegal for the PM to order Trident to retaliate?
    Don't you bloody start!



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    Too many laws, too many performance indicators for plod means 'what gets measured gets done' . Knee jerk legislation is a trademark of the current govt response to public outrage.
    Not enough prisons, magistrates told not to send crims to prison, no deterrent for the untermensch; there are too many factors to claw back from imho.
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    Re: Britain Creating Too Many Bad Laws?

    Quote Originally Posted by DozyBint
    Given the number of MPs who have law degrees and legal backgrounds, I've always been amazed that a) governments bring in new laws rather than looking in the 'back catalogue' and seeing how many already have provision to be applied to the 'new' problem and b) how poorly written the laws are, which enables judges to rule against our governments. I appreciate that law is all about interpretation, but it is possible to be accurate and precise with language to the point that no interpretation can be reached other than that intended by the law makers.
    Given the number of MPs who have law degrees and backgrounds, is it surprising that they've passed a load of bad laws? This gives job creation opportunities for their Chambers, Practices and Partnerships, and makes sure they have a few shillings coming in to top up their Parliamentary Pension when they retire.
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    Re: Britain Creating Too Many Bad Laws?

    I'd say the root cause was the corruption of popular government (always of mixed benefit, IMO) into populist government. With a vast bulk of voters fixed unthinkingly on their voting habits and a small promiscuous minority of swing-voters holding the keys to the safe from moment to moment, politicians will invariably cleave to the votes that count from moment to moment.

    Being Seen To Be Doing Something is the new politics, folks. "In a democracy, the people get the government they deserve".
    We need people who look to the stars, holding the nation and the world in their hearts but at the same time we need down-to-earth people who can do serious and trying work.

    In a definite sense, a country's power and prestige isn't only a reflection of its economic power but also a reflection of its people's quality and morality. Moreover, I think the latter is actually more important in the long-term.

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    Voting habits...habitual behaviour often requires no thought...

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    All these Laws plus all the Shite that comes from Brussles is all designed to do one thing, make money. The spin off is that it also creates industries that all then have sub-industries that feed from them.

    My small company got a bill for about £130 from the performing rights society that they wanted us to pay, just so that we could legally listen to the radio in the van..! My fecking arrse, it's my pisssing van and I'll listen to what I fecking like, cnuts...! But that's what it's all about. Creat laws and then create false jobs to feed from the implementation of them.

    They're now on about installing Average Speed Camera's on all the motorways in the country; but the truth of the matter is that they couldn't give a flying one for roads deaths, it's all about creating a few false jobs and raising revenue. Whereas they want us all to get our enegry from windfarms, yet the countries only manufacturer of the equipment required has gone bust. Then as if to make matters worse, 90% of the contracts for the creations of the new Thames Gateway project (whose name escapes me), has all gone to overseas firms. More cnuts..

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    Re: Britain Creating Too Many Bad Laws?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grownup_Rafbrat
    Quote Originally Posted by DozyBint
    Given the number of MPs who have law degrees and legal backgrounds, I've always been amazed that a) governments bring in new laws rather than looking in the 'back catalogue' and seeing how many already have provision to be applied to the 'new' problem and b) how poorly written the laws are, which enables judges to rule against our governments. I appreciate that law is all about interpretation, but it is possible to be accurate and precise with language to the point that no interpretation can be reached other than that intended by the law makers.
    Given the number of MPs who have law degrees and backgrounds, is it surprising that they've passed a load of bad laws? This gives job creation opportunities for their Chambers, Practices and Partnerships, and makes sure they have a few shillings coming in to top up their Parliamentary Pension when they retire.
    True - I didn't follow on from the obvious that when Blair was in power he was just lining up business for his wife!

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